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HF... are you feeling strong or are we feeling weak?

I'll write a letter to Tampax for you Ray to get you sponsored...I hear Maybelline Cosmetics and Dr. Dean's Hip Replacment Surgery Center are also taking apps...

From what limited experience i have at the Red, I'd say any 12a in the book or sprayed about by a local is in reality 11d tops...I'm sure it is the same with 13a.....

Do the classic 13a Convicted. Be sure to take the weak cheese optional no hands knee bar in the middle of the business at the fourth bolt. You get to do a 12b/c with all the spray of a 13a. What a bargain.

Horatio Felacio wrote:just browse through john bronaugh's guidebook and parts of the online guidebook. most sport routes have been bumped up at least a letter grade. why did this happen?

If you see grades in the online guide that have been "bumped up", it is more than likely a mistake on my part. I challenge anyone to create a guidebook and obtain the original ratings with absolutely no mistakes from the original FA.

In defense of John, I'm sure he ran into the same problems. Imagine trying to obtain a list of thousands of routes and getting each grade exactly correct as the FA rated it.

You're an armchair quarterback Nasty!

yeah nasty. you bush wacking yellow livered arm chair quarter backing pud smacking piece of milk toast!

Milk Toast!! YEA!

yeah so what? so i like milk toast and pud whacking with cheese. what's it to ya. i am a quarterback too.

i'm sure it's not easy to go from scratch. all i'm talking about is comparing porters red river select guide to johns. look through em both and you'll see a consistent inflation of grades by a letter grade. there's a few downgrades too.

maybe i'm wrong, but it looked like you just took a large part of johns info. it looks like that's where your bumped up grades came from. the online guidebook is cool though, cause you can change shit on it. like harvest and flux to name a few.

the online guidebook is really cool now that i think about it. it's a good way to get a census on grades. is it hard to put a poll for each route where you could vote on the grade?

I like to randomly change grades on routes I have no chance in hell of doing in this lifetime just to fuck with all y'all.

I did downgrade some routes in the beginning but I think I changed them back after going through some evolution and realizing that the safest thing to do is just to leave it at what the original FA gave it unless it is 2 grades off (John's recommendation).

I guarantee you won't find one route in the Red that everyone agrees on the rating. It seems to be completely impossible due to everyone having different sized hands, longer arms, shorter legs, bigger heads, longer fingernails.....

I don't think the perfectly graded route exists in this world. Not until we're all cloned to be the same person.