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stunning is 12d no doubt..allah is in usual form, trying to yank a chain or two.

yes, doing the mantle is 100% necessary to get the "send" to stunning. who cares that it is easier than the rest of the line..since when is that the prereq for finishing a line?

btw, don't clip the chains, just take the jump from above, and save your rope...

To me Stunning is a pile, you guys like it thats fine, (I know Piggy likes it ) But out of all the routes you listed One-Fall It is totally at the bottom of that list. Another thing, everything at the lode is unigue, maybe not the undertow wall cause it is just a crimp ladder there but everywhere else at the lode is all unique with all kinds of varied moves and such. and hell we wont even go there with the dark side, where else can you get bad ass fuckin moves like all those? You cant plan and simple.

Power2U, Sorry to say, but it is no harder than Wild Gift

piggie and power say 12d...

allah says 12a...so far, consensus is at 12d....

Man, I can't believe you pussies are arguing about whether something is .12c or .12d. Both of those ratings ain't shit compared to what the big boys are out there doing! Your boy Caldwell is sending 5.15 with one finger missing! I think I want to fight every mother fucking one of you pussies. Bare-fisted penis puppetry at its best. I'll show you a dick cheeseburger like you've never seen.

MMMMM....Cheese Burger


BTW... Allah.... Wild Gift is noticeably easier for me than Stunning...Hey wait maybe Stunning is 12c and Wild Gift is 12b? It's all relative. And you are right the Lode does have a lot of variety... probably the most varied sport clif at the Red....if not anywhere.

SCIN,

Ray give us a break we are trying to get use to working again after the Holiday Season and need some senseless crap to waste time on as we attempt to get our pea sized brains working again

By the way when you gonna add The Oasis so I can Sppprayyy some more?

Also while your in the on-line guide making modifications downgrade every sport route in the Red one letter and see if anyone notices could be a lot of fun. We need something to live'n this place up since Ho-Fo ain't start'n any crap lately.

SCIN...well hell, I have been the one voting for screwing all ratings below 12a anyway...why you trying to steal my thunder ray?

give me a freakin break....many a dick cheeseburgers have been served over 14d/15a...20 years from now even those rantings will seem inconsequential...

if you don't like it, then stay on your trad lines where every outing is an "epic", 5.10 is considered hard ass, and 37 moves of the same jam will garner a line as an uber classic.

Power2U wrote:By the way when you gonna add The Oasis so I can Sppprayyy some more?

Spray away, Power2U! http://www.redriverclimbing.com/RRCGuid ... .php?id=82

Thanks.