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Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 5:24 pm
by spuzo
"No. I prefer natural relations to unnatural"

Wow - who's to say homosexual relations are "unnatural" - that's a bold statement -
And I won't even get into the HIV thing.
I read a lot on this site and don't post too terribly often, but I would hope that this is just some trolling - as I have come to appreciate and respect the people on this site (without even have met them) for their openness and compassionate nature towards others.
Joking is one thing but, yeah, there's a line.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 5:30 pm
by Guest
spraydog, I'm not sure if you are trolling or serious here, but I'll assume you are serious. First of all, I have a straight relative who is HIV positive - so I know a little about this disease. HIV is not a 'gay disease.' You should know that by now. For your purposes, what you need to know is that you don't have to worry about contracting HIV from blood left on the rocks. Researchers have tried to keep the virus alive in ideal conditions (for blood) outside of the body and have not been successful. So even if an HIV positive climber bleeds all over a route, you are safe if you climb that route another time.

Hopefully you know the various ways you can contract HIV and take precautions if you are in a risk group. Rock climbing is not one of those risks, except perhaps under a very contrived, paranoid scenario I'm sure someone can dream up. :roll:

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 5:38 pm
by Gretchen
People, ignore the dog and he will scamper away. Let's not feed into this crap!

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 5:38 pm
by Guest
oh, and I'm changing the wording of your poll. I find your last option offensive as hell, and since I'm a mod, I get to do what I want. Sukit.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 5:41 pm
by overhung
spuzo wrote:"No. I prefer natural relations to unnatural"

Wow - who's to say homosexual relations are "unnatural" - that's a bold statement -
And I won't even get into the HIV thing.
I read a lot on this site and don't post too terribly often, but I would hope that this is just some trolling - as I have come to appreciate and respect the people on this site (without even have met them) for their openness and compassionate nature towards others.
Joking is one thing but, yeah, there's a line.
Great points. I agree that it's not even a sincere inquiry concerning HIV. I think he's just trying to make an inflammatory statement about "unnatural relations."

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 5:43 pm
by Guest
kentuckysarah wrote:You know, not everyone with HIV is gay. So what are you gonna do? Test everyone before they can climb? That's ridiculous. If I had a disease as serious as that and knew that I wouldn't be able to carry on a semi-normal life for much longer, then I would want to keep doing the things that I enjoy for as long as possible.
While only .2% of hiv infections are in heterosexual, non-intra-venous drug users and the hiv virus has a 1/500 chance of being passed during vaginal intercourse but almost a 100% probability of being passed during anal intercourse.(Center for Disease Control, Atlanta Georgia)
Political correctness dictates that HIV/AIDS not be stigmatized as a "gay" disease.
I have nothing but mercy for all victims of this horrible disease. For reference material and a lesson in compasion you should read "AND THE BAND PLAYED ON" It is about poor crsis handling by the politico's of the time. Very interesting read but heartbreaking.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 5:50 pm
by canadaclimbergirl
Why don't we ask the government of Senegal if 1/3 of their population is gay...must be considering that 1/3 of the population of that, and other African countries, is infected by HIV. :roll:

Really people...if there is anyone out there who still thinks this is a 'gay' thing...give your head a freeking shake.

Again...educate yourselves....the info is out there.

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 6:28 pm
by pigsteak
now a real serious question...if being gay is the way a person is born, is being bi or bi-curious also the way a person is born? I am thinking of the political implications of this one....

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 6:53 pm
by andy_lemon
pigsteak wrote:now a real serious question...if being gay is the way a person is born, is being bi or bi-curious also the way a person is born? I am thinking of the political implications of this one....
I wonder if a person is born to have a threesome?! :?

lucky bastards...

Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2003 6:55 pm
by spraydog
Now wait a minute. That’s censorship Sandy.

Lets try this logic. What happens when a women is sexually aroused? The vagina lubricates itself. Your asshole does not get wet, your vagina does. When a man gets sexually aroused his penis gets hard. His asshole does not get wet, but his penis gets hard. Hard penis and wet vagina. Doesn’t take a degree to figure out that the two go together. Naturally. You don’t have to make any stretch of the imagination to come up with that conclusion.

But let me try to convince you that it’s natural for me to shove my hard dry penis up your dry or shit encrusted asshole, “Oh come on Honey, lets just try it just this once. You’ll like it I promise. Gay people like it. Why shouldn’t you? ”, and I’ll bet you will protest most vehemently. You’ve already proclaimed no one is going to get your “ass cherry”. Why is that?

How many women on here will step up and say they want a dry penis shoved up their dry asshole? Remember it is your vagina that lubricates when you are stimulated and not your asshole. Seems like a natural system at work to me.

I petition that the final option be changed back to its original content. I feel it is a valid supposition and I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.