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Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:59 pm
by captain static
According to the Climbing Management Guide the closure of Chimney Top is a seasonal restriction.
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:05 pm
by captain static
Whoops, sorry. Upon further research I found that the seasonal closure has been superceded by the following Forest Supervisor's Order:
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE
UNITED STATES FOREST SERVICE
DANIEL BOONE NATIONAL FOREST
ORDER NO. 12-01-00
"RED RIVER GORGE GEOLOGICAL AREA"
Pursuant to the provisions of 16 U.S.C., Section 551, and Title 36 C.F.R., Section 261.50 (a), the following prohibitions apply to THE RED RIVER GORGE GEOLOGICAL AREA located on the Stanton Ranger District within the Daniel Boone National Forest. The area in question is depicted on the attached map.
Camping within 300 ft. of any developed road. 261.58(e).
Camping within 300 ft. of any developed trail. 261.58(e)
Camping within 600 ft. of Grays Arch. 261.58(e).
Climbing or repelling within 300 ft. of Sky Bridge, Grays Arch, Nada Tunnel or Chimney Top Rock overlook. 261.53(e)
The above prohibited acts are set forth in Title 36 C.F.R., Section 261.52, 261.53, and 261.58
Pursuant to 36 C.F.R. 261.50(e) the following persons are exempt from the above Prohibition:
Any Federal, State or local officer, or member of an organized rescue or firefighting force engaged in the performance of an official duty.
Prepared at Winchester, Kentucky
this 30th day of May, 2000.
BENJAMIN T. WORTHINGTON
Forest Supervisor
ORDER EXPIRES FIVE (5) YEARS FROM DATE OF SIGNATURE
Violations of the above prohibitions set forth above are punishable by a fine of not more than $5,000 for an individual and $10,000 for an organization, or imprisonment for not more than six (6) months, or both.
Title 16 U.S.C. 551, 18 U.S.C. 3559 and 3571.
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:27 pm
by ynot
Like I said. It's closed. So much for rapping in to clean it up. Half moon needs cleaned up just as bad and it has a couple good lines. Full Moon is Stellar.
Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:30 pm
by goodguy
What the hell! Answer the original question you bunch of lame asses.
She was wondering which crack is true grit. After you scramble up the gulley to the ledge is it the crack on the right or the left?
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:57 am
by littlefeller
You tell them goodguy.
Posted: Thu Nov 27, 2003 7:00 pm
by john e aragon
this area is closed form march to november (prime tourist time) it is now open to climbers. there is a walk down but it is much easier to rap in. you will need a couple of dump trucks to haul the garbage out of there. good luck.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 1:45 pm
by Wicked Tribe
The problem with the garbage is getting it out. You going to haul it out?
The approach (non-rappelling) is a scramble.
Chimney is closed to climbing/rappelling.
The selfish part of me feels since I'm not allowedto climb there anymore then I shouldn't clean up the base which is mostly only seem by climbers anyway. But then I hate to see the junk and know that it is one of the worst illegal dump sites in the Gorge.
The reality of it is that if you participated in some big clean up effort that the next time you were down there you'd just become more cynical after seeing the amount of garbage thrown down since. Its best to forget about it and move on.
Oh, and I don't know which crack is true grit.
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:54 pm
by Christian
I was thinking about renting a bulldozer and a dump truck and building a road down to the bottom of chimney top to clean it up. Doesn't the Forest Sevice love building roads?
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:48 am
by dipsi
I'm willing to help, but I think John is right. Too bad the tourist aren't as conscientious as climbers. Woo, too many Baileys! Did I spell everything right there?
Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:54 pm
by andy_lemon
Christian wrote:I was thinking about renting a bulldozer and a dump truck and building a road down to the bottom of chimney top to clean it up. Doesn't the Forest Sevice love building roads?
Yeh, then we could drive down to the base of the cliff to climb illegally. Great idea!
and with all these steep approach trails, we might as well make one of the easiest approaches even easier.