do terms even matter anymore?

Post by **SikMonkey** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:34 pm

RTimm,
for as long as I have been climbing, I have understood the term "did" to mean you sent the route. "Got on" means you just went btb, pulled on gear, etc. Neither of those are coined terms as you said, but I have heard them used by everyone I have encountered.

Mj

Post by **rhunt** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 7:40 pm

Piggie, I see your point and agree but with the young 14 year old dude, I think he just got his terminology mixed up. Not that he didn't know the diference between a redpoint, flash, on-sight, etc..just that he got the words messed...just my take on it..

and remember, words don't mean anything and there are no rules...Brah

Post by **pigsteak** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:26 pm

lol....come on rhunt..so my turn on wild gift was as awesome as yours? you sent the thing, no hangs, and I fell before the crux, but finished it after a hang..no way dude...terms do matter. your send was way better style than mine in clipping the chains...

rtimm...I am with sik monkey..."did" means (meant)to send a route clean...wheter it was TR, repoint, or onsight might still be open, but you "did" it with no falls.

yes, BTB, and then saying you "did" a route is crap....if that were the case, I'd be climbing routes way harder than now...lol

Post by **pigsteak** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:28 pm

sik..your tag line "did you send it".....

what exactly does that mean....? lol

i stick clipped 4 bolts but clipped the chains..guess I sent it...

Post by **Yasmeen** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:06 pm

So you're saying my onsight of Face Up to That Crack doesn't count if I pulled on the draws while on toprope and had someone on Mr. Bungle telling me where to put my hands and feet the whole time?

Post by **Spray Lord** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:10 pm

Sounds like you've been learning your ethics from loren Yasmeen. Perhaps you should take up with Wes before you lose all of your class, ethics, and style.

Post by **Yasmeen** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:16 pm

Dude you were the one on Mr. Bungle spraying at me.

Post by **Spray Lord** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 9:21 pm

Only because I was scared for your life Yasmeen. I've never seen anyone quake in fear like you did when "facing up to that crack". What was I supposed to do when I heard someone crying like a little child, screaming and blubbering and shit. I was just trying to get you to shut up so that I could get back to sending loren's projects.

Post by **merrick** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:07 pm

i think people learn the terminology by participating in the sport. when i first started climbing, all that was important was getting to the top and doing all the moves. it didn't matter that i was on toprope and hanging. i didnt really know what redpointing or onsighting was and if i used those terms i probably used them incorrectly. then all i wanted to do was lead routes. i didn't care about hangdogging or falling. now i use terms like onsight and redpoint becuase that is the game i am now playing.

Post by **pigsteak** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:09 pm

yas, naw, we'll give you that onsight....although a great argument can be made that there are very few onsightable routes at the red, with all the chalk painting the way...