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I'd get into big trouble now, with a baby on the way! Gretchen gets mad when I start climbing before she's on belay even though I won't be "on" until the first bolt anyway.

Soloing is selfish and stupid. How easily can you trip getting out of the tub or walking up some stairs. And even that sometimes kills people.

Don't solo in front of me. Don't brag about it because I'll read you the riot act. If it is something you do for yourself...then shut the hell up about it.

climbing in general is selfish and stupid....just depends on what lengths you want to take it to...

canadaclimbergirl wrote:Soloing is selfish and stupid. How easily can you trip getting out of the tub or walking up some stairs. And even that sometimes kills people.
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So, wouldn't that make taking a bath or walking up stairs selfish and stupid?

People get killed far more by other kinds of climbing issues. So, please, no one ever clean anchors or rap in front of me. If you do, I swear I will leave the crag.

What a bunch of P.C. pussies.

Wes

amen wes!!!!

please.....You have to agree that soloing is FAR more risky than rapping off and cleaning anchors. Yes...people get killed everyday by doing things FAR LESS risky than soloing....EXACTLY my point.

forget dying...what about falling to your death in front of me so I get to replay that scene every time I close my eyes for the rest of my life. So I can't climb anymore because I've seen someone deck and die. SELFISH.

What about the climbing area and access?? In our area on Gov't land....a death due to soloing could shut us down. now THAT is also selfish. "hey I'm gonna go solo here, and if I fall and die....no one will EVER be able to climb here again".

I have read the riot act to many...and would do the same to you Wes if I see you solo in front of me.

I already said....if you are going to do it...shut up about it and go do it where no one can see you..but in saying that... I feel sorry for the fella who finds the body in the talus at the bottom of the cliff.

I ilke throwing acorns at people free soloing really hard stuff but only with their consent.

I'm with you 100% CCG. I didn't vote because "Soloing is selfish and stupid" wasn't an option. I think that if someone wants to solo then that's fine but they shouldn't solo around others.

Sandy wrote: I think its selfish to be perfectly frank, since you asked.

Yea..soloing a sport route is silly.

climbhigh and i were working on a boulder problem two days ago that he had been projecting for a few years. i was making good progress but he just wasn't feeling it. he asked if he could borrow a pad so he could try some other problems for awhile and get his head back. he went off and when he came back his eyes were wide open and he looked really different. he told me that he just had one of the most incredible climbing expereiences of his life. then he sent his three year project first go. he was a machine and the climbing was beautiful.

while he was gone he went and climbed the scoop, a classic v3, and then looked over and saw a fifty foot high trad route. he then onsight soloed it. no anticipation, no showing off, no competition, no grade chasing, just pure climbing. that is what soloing is about. we were the only people in rocktown the whole day. it was intense.

all i can say is if you are going to solo you better be doing it for the right reasons.