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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:45 pm
by jhg
I heard that access road to the Arena is not owned by RRGCC, hence it's status as closed. So I was wondering if there's not some other (legal) way to approach and perhaps rappel to climbing areas. *shrug* It was an idle thought because someone once told me the routes I like to climb are fairly abundant in that area.

captain_static: I'm sorry if my usage of the word "word" was obtuse. I went to a Catholic high school so I'm always interchanging "word" for "news", which is hopefully "good news", which is gospel, which some hold to be God's "word". Anyway, TMI, I know, but I think it was funny you made me think of that. =)

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:10 pm
by pigsteak
jhg..rrgcc does not own the land beneath the walls at the Arena, so you legally can not stand and belay those climbs.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:14 pm
by jhg
What about belaying from above? I suppose I'd rather TR if given a choice between TR and nothing.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:24 pm
by Wes
jhg wrote:What about belaying from above? I suppose I'd rather TR if given a choice between TR and nothing.
Um, why not just go climb one of the other 100's of routes out there until they can work something out? Or do you feel such a sense of entitlement that you are special enough that you should have preferential treatment?

There are routes there I would love to do, but, out of respect for the work the rrgcc is doing, I chose not to climb there.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:27 pm
by mcrib
There are plenty of other overhanging jughauls with much easier access. So lets try to respect cliff closures and have faith that our reps at the RRGCC are working to remedy the situation.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:34 pm
by merrick
since those crags closed there have probably been 300+ new legal routes developed and many many many of them are in the same range of the ones at the arena and oil crag.

Check out Muir Valley for easier and moderate climbs, if that is what you are looking for.

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 8:50 pm
by merrick
according to the online guidebook there have been 354 new routes put up since oil crag and the arena were closed. that is more than most climbing areas have in total. Throw in the other 1,100 open routes in the Red and you have enough climbing for decades. (And in all styles and difficulties)