Pull the rope?

Post by **vic** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:07 pm

HF, Yeah, I think so.
While in the states, I am learning NEW techniques though:
Stick clipping (while climbing sport)

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:15 pm

Why waste all that work putting up a route?
Second it and clean.
Then go to the next climb.

I think you badasd climbers put too much emphasis on leading.

As for the remark about how better climbers always lead. That's bullshit. I know plenty of people who can't climb the numbers that I can (that are lead oriented, they try to lead as much as possible)

Post by **Power2U** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:15 pm

I always pull the rope and lead for three reasons....

1.) I hate having the top-rope always hitting me in the face!
2.) I can't unclip a draw from a TR while I'm climbing past it to save my life

(It is way easier to clip the rope in a draw than unclip it, for me anyhow.)
3.) If I lead it cleanly I can tick it off on this sites neat-o tick list feature

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:17 pm

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:15 pm

Hah! I beat you to it.

Post by **Wes** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:21 pm

Sorry, JH, but hang dogging your ass up a route on TR is not climbing. Leading = real climbing. Leading a 5.7 is much more impressive to me then TR'ing a 5.11. Oh, and regarding the "Numbers that I can"; if you aren't leading it doesn't count.

Wes

Post by **vic** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:23 pm

You can't just focus on one thing: like leading, but you shouldn't only focus on TR either. A good mixture of both TR and leading is the key (in my opinion).

Post by **deal with it** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:28 pm

top roping is bad for the soul man. Too much TR can really mess with your head when you are leading. Pull it and lead it. On the other hand something that is way over your head might be better done on TR so you can really work the moves and find the sequence. at the risk of sounding very redudant trad is a different story but as Caspian said there are ways around that for many climbs

Post by **Power2U** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:28 pm

Wes wrote: if you aren't leading it doesn't count.

Wes

Right on Wes... this coment should start some $&!*.

Post by **Horatio Felacio** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:28 pm

man, i personally think that is bullshit. actually i guess it depends on your goals. if you want to be an average leader, then yes, you should "practice" toproping...whatever that means. if you want to be a solid climber (whatever the grade for you might be) then you should always lead and nothing else unless you have to.

Post by **air canada** » Mon Sep 15, 2003 7:31 pm

Yeah, I'll nearly always pull the rope. For much the same reasons as P2U, as well just maintaining a lead head. What happens when you're faced with hanging the draws, or going somewhere new and getting on routes for the first time? To me, in many ways (not all!), having a lead head is a skill that comes with use and comes to some more easily than others.

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