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GO BIG BLUE!!!! at least it is not orange or red, right???

I dislike...

I'm assuming he is using blue to easily identify his tick marks.

Seems like blue would be much harder to scrub off and have it look at all natural. Also, where does it end? "No bro, my ticks are the light blue, not the teal!"

kind of douchbag thing to be doing imo. my guess is if he is doing it on fs property its only a matter of time before they try to control the problem and we all know the normal course of action there. way to go dude, you just may get to be that guy....i just cannot see the point or think of any reason to be doing that at all. either learn to climb smarter/better or stay on a route that you dont have to draw a map for, better yet just tay away from here. those routes been done thousands of times before you and not one person needed that shit. step up and speak out when you see people doing dumb shit that in the end affects you.

Why would blue be harder to scrub off? Is the color blue naturally more resistant to abrasion? Wouldn't a good start be to brush our WHITE chalk off the rock, so that it may appear more natural?

I mean I'm down for asking people to not mark up the cliffline with nothing but the whitest, Fuhrer-approved chalk if that's what we're after. But I'm just at a loss for words at the Hypocrisy. I'm willing to admit that blue chalk probably isn't the best looking thing, but to raise question about it because "it doesn't look natural?" I just don't understand that argument.

assuming that the blue is no harder to remove than the white stuff,I see it as hypocrisy for all white chalk users to berate him. I may change my mind when I actually see the blue tick marks, but come on...our white messy layer is somehow superior? why not we all start using blue instead...wouldn't blus be less obvious than the white? and therefore put us on better footing with landowners....?

you all of course expected me to take the opposite side, right?

dustonian, what justification did you use with him to say that he should not use blue chalk? because white was our preferred method of marking our territory?

one other thing..if a single one of you blue tick mark haters leaves or uses project draws, then shut the hell up....project draws are way more unsightly.

I have thought about manufacturing colored chalk, matching the rock to specific to a region... would you buy it?

pig , i cant disagree with you more. i could say i kinda see your point on the hypocrisy of it, but that would be so very very slightly it barely registers.

I know that if any of you that has a brain answered honestly that if you really want to see a ton of different colors on the rock when you go to the woods , it would be no....and if not then you need smacked, hard.

has our area really came to this being OK and its people to the point they will allow it to happen ? im floored that there is even a discussion about it.

maybe we should start using rosin ? anyone want to spray paint the names on the wall ? maybe we should follow the blue line trail to the red line routes ? maybe the rrgcc can hand out red, white and blue chalk to mark up and draw on, maybe muir does bright green. yeah thats it, lets have a fucking hopscotch wall drawn going up the wall.....dumb, just dumb.

give me a break , everything we as humans and esp climbers do is hypocritical but you have to decide at what point it needs to stop. using different color shit to mark up the wall like a color by numbers painting is one of those points and is the dumbest things i have heard in a few days. natural would be cool but has failed when introduced to the markets.

if that trend gets out of hand my money is the FS will step in, and you will not like what they do. so why ever let people think its ok to do stupid, unnecessary stuff like that ?

different only counts if its better and this shits just dumb....

while i find fidelity to logic totally adorable, it's important we understand why this whole smurf chalk fiasco is 'bad'.

blue chalk is obviously not morally problematic, nor is it more 'unnatural' than white chalk. what it is, however, is outside of the marking norm. and therein lies the problem: it adds yet another layer of visibility to a practice (in a place) which doesn't need it. countering this both here and in the field is simply political pragmatism on our parts... not a foil for a high school philosophy lecture.

you're welcome,
tommy

white is right... right?

this is not a gym... I think the white chalk gets grandfathered in.

I'm with RRO... i hope that doesn't hurt his point.