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Re: Steel Biners for replacing worn out gear

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:51 am
by pigsteak
and give me the stolen ones...love it.

Re: Steel Biners for replacing worn out gear

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 3:19 am
by Meadows
Ha! They all have tracking devices installed and you don't want to see what happens when a person is tracked down. It's ugly, especially if he/she replaces the biner with aluminum.

Re: Steel Biners for replacing worn out gear

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 4:52 pm
by stix
steel biners keep getting replace at the lode. does anyone have any idea why this is happening? it's happened on chainsaw and ale 8 that i've noticed. is it people that are just unaware or just are folks taking them? climbers suck!

Re: Steel Biners for replacing worn out gear

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:45 pm
by pigsteak
you are saying people are bogarting them?

Re: Steel Biners for replacing worn out gear

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:40 pm
by pawilkes
meadows - i'd be interested in getting some steel biners. if you know more let me know

Re: Steel Biners for replacing worn out gear

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:40 pm
by Meadows
Stix - I remember that happening last Spring with Chainsaw and someone found the guys who did it. They were projecting chainsaw and took the biners and left worn aluminum. I *think* they handed them over to a guy who called them out.

Phil - I will get back to you.

Re: Steel Biners for replacing worn out gear

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:11 pm
by pigsteak
ah, the big happy cool people club....

Re: Steel Biners for replacing worn out gear

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:58 am
by Jeff
Positively groovy.

Re: Steel Biners for replacing worn out gear

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 5:10 pm
by stix
i was the one who called the guys out last year and they said they would return the biner to me. dan brayak took over the conversation and got the biner back. the cypher was not returned to chainsaw and i haven't seen it. ale 8 is missin some now. why do people take off perfectly good biners that are heavy as shit and in good shape? i don't believe they are being put on different routes. also, when do they grab em when no one who knows better is there to say something?

Re: Steel Biners for replacing worn out gear

Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:22 am
by mike_anderson
From a philosophical standpoint, we should consider if all of this "den mother" behavior is really making the Red safer. One could certainly argue that this activity does not promote an attitude of personal responsibility. "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day...", you know?

There seem to be an unusually larger number of accidents at the Red and I've always attributed that to the shear volume of climbers here, but maybe that is not the only factor?