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they'll have the crap scared out of them if they're leading. the first pitch is basically unprotectable w/ normal gear.

If you are looking for something easy and cool, try bedtime for bonzo at fortress wall. SUPER easy 1st pitch, slightly harder 2nd pitch, bolt anchors at the top of each pitch for easy toproping, and a nice view of the red after the top out. protects with a standard rack .5-3 BD bring some slings for the second pitch. lots of shorter fun and easy single pitch stuff there along the main wall too.

high adventure. trad climbing, caving, worm drive, summit experience, the descent-- it' all there.

A set of nuts, a few tricams, yellow,orange and red metolious cams . a 4 and a 5 bd cam for an anchor, a draw. I think you can get a fist size cam in before the last chimney. some slings and lockers. a 60 just barely gets you down on the opposite side you start from. There's gear but you really have to look for it.

I'm first to call TROLL.

come on jeff..all these nice climbers wanting to help out, and you are peeing in the pot.

milspecmark wrote:What kind of trad equipment do I need to do Caver's Route? I normally sport climb but I am going to the gorge with a friend that Trad climbs but I want to make sure he has enough gear.

the same trad gear that you used scrambling around on rocks when you were 8 years old.

milspecmark wrote:What kind of trad equipment do I need to do Caver's Route? I normally sport climb but I am going to the gorge with a friend that Trad climbs but I want to make sure he has enough gear.

What kind of trad climber might not have enough gear?.......I'm just saying......

everytime someone gets on here wanting to know where to take the "noobs" it gives me this feeling of dread.

If you dont know what you are getting in to, do you need to take a bunch of new climbers with you?

I can see the headlines now.......

oh and its my turn to be the asshole, thank you

The first rock climb I ever did was Caver's. It was dead of winter, 7 degrees, with lots of snow and ice on the route. Leading was sixteen year old Martin Hackworth - phenom kid caver of the Bluegrass Grotto. He'd been showing Frank Becker and I "the ropes". We were accumulating quite a bit of caving experience and, on this day, he figured it was about time to introduce us to rock climbing. I'd brought along a gorgeous girl from my U. K. Geology class. I believe it was our first date.

Much to Martin's amusement, my girl had a hell of a time getting her tits past the squeeze at the top of the chimney pitch. She was terrified the whole way, and pretty much put me in shock by giving me huge bear hugs whenever we weren't actually climbing or rappelling. Finally, I came within a hair of getting us all killed in Stanton, somehow escaping with nothing more than a $35 ticket (a week's pay at my $1 and hour job on campus). It was the most awesome first day of climbing, ever.

No doubt, Caver's has turned into a totally boring route since then. No way it could still be the great experience it was way back when.

ps - I'm pretty sure we had a single gold line rope, a few slings and biners, and nothing else. And yes, I did get the girl, but I'd fallen in love with climbing and my days as a caver were numbered.