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Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:53 pm
by One-Fall
I think I have to back Mack5 on that one. But so much is about how much love gets put into a route too. The Bob Marley cave YEARS ago was known as a choss pile, but once those routes got some serious runs to clean them up, most became 5 star.

Some known choss-piles Id love to try to clean up and find the beauty: Beeper @ Bob Marley and Crumblies at Bronaugh Wall.

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:39 pm
by krampus
crumblies might be the chossies climb I have ever been on, but knowing that, its a blast

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:47 pm
by steep4me
Happy trails
Maypop
Brother Stair
Drop the anchor
Some 5.6 and 5.8 at Courtesy Wall


I'm sure some people would like these routes, I just don't like this kind of climbing and do not ever want to do any of these routes again. I hate slabs with moss especially. But...it is still awesome that people bother to spend time and money to bolt something for others!

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:21 pm
by krampus
i don't understand why people don't like maypop and brother stair. Sure, maypop is hard for an 11a, just stop being a puss. And yes the bolts on brother stair could be moved a foot to the left, but again, stop being a puss. The routs are still fun and great learning experiences.

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:54 pm
by pigsteak
ok, mr feel good with every stinkin climb in the Red krampus...give us some you hate.....really, really, hate.

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:41 pm
by krampus
lets see.....worst routs at the red.
malice
amarillo sunset
wildfire
and most of de bibliotech

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:51 pm
by krampus
honestly I can only think of two routs that I will not likely ever get on again even though I haven't sent them

1. flying serpents at the boneyard - felt really sharp and the movement wasn't very fun
2. bleed like me - somehow given 5 stars in the last guidebook but obviously a ploy by the equipper to sucker people in to trying such a sharp crappy rout, not fun at all. maybe I just had high hopes and was let down by the star rating given by the first and only assent at the time.


Otherwise, everything else I have ever been on was at least enjoyable

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:11 pm
by drifter
I've only done 1 route at the Red that stands out as being terrible....

The Business at Drive By. Scary rock, dirty, sandy, indirect....it just sucks.

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:42 pm
by pawilkes
I just sent Flying Serpents a couple days ago, I think the movement is really good but hard to figure out and a bit run out in that section. The top of the Business is pretty fun. i once got Spencer on it cause I told him i liked it. He wasn't very happy with me. :lol: