State of the Union: Will you be fooled?

Post by **caribe** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:30 pm

Mike it is not as bad as you think. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

Post by **Andrew** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:16 am

I didn't snake your route. I relieved you of the shame of it.

Post by **pigsteak** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:17 am

Andrew wrote:I didn't snake your route. I relieved you of the shame of it.

o yeah. crap. Andrew, from the bottom of my self promotional heart, I apologize.

Post by **clif** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:07 am

why aren't ya'll collecting stamps or studying the weaknesses of the Luzhin Defense?

Post by **michaelarmand** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:57 pm

So I didn't even get to watch the whole speech last night. I passed out after Obama suggested the government pay off our student loans.

I'm such a sucker, actually paying my debts....

Post by **bcombs** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:04 pm

Most public schools (and many private) require a minimum of a Masters to teach. Most of those teachers make less than ~40K a year. How is limiting the payment requirement to 10% of their annual income and putting a 20 year cap on it a bad thing?

No-one thinks you're a sucker for paying off your debt. You would only be a sucker if you didn't take advantage of a program like this because you're too stubborn.

Post by **pigsteak** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:18 pm

bcombs, hope you are talking commnity colleges, casue there ain't a high school in this state that requires a masters to teach...not one. right andrew?

why should teachers be given any more breaks than other professions? that is a crock. teaching is no more admirable than any other profession, give me a break. plus, I don't care what teachers say, they are paid for working 9 months a year, so their salary is fine.

Post by **bcombs** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:21 pm

Based on you bringing in Andrew, I'm going to assume you know your first line is false.

I used the teacher example because my wife is one, and it is a notoriously low paying job for the amount of education it requires.

Yes, they get the summers off. If they worked year round would they get paid what they are worth?

Post by **pkananen** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:36 pm

My wife was the last class to not need a master's degree (elementary in Ohio) to teach. Although she only works 9 months a year, she is there at least 2 weeks before and after the school year, and she always works more than 40 hours/week. She also makes more than 50K.

Post by **anticlmber** » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:41 pm

teachers are just lazy. andrew spends time that he could be teaching or learning new ideas on education to share with the youth of our world. and he spends it here.
and that fail blog shit.

way to raise the bar only to trip over it wheatley. you and your sister.