Funk Rock - food for thought

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Wes
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Savage wrote: Also, when i reached the anchors, i was displeased to find some sh.t anchors. The hangers themselves were fine and are located on a horizontal part of a ledge. Then an assortment of rope/webbing goes from the hangers to the vertical part of the ledge. Many of them were faded and scary looking. I tested the set-up before i lowered off, but that is not a legit set-up and i dont want to see another tragedy like ben and laura. Question #3: How much does it cost to run chains over the ledge (about a foot or so)? If Wes/Team Suck will go put chains on it, I will send you the money for it.
Yep, I was also super psyched to see the anchors on that route when I was on it a couple years ago, sounds about the same now. Quicklinks and chains are easy to install, so anyone can do that. Not sure when I would be on the route again, but will try to remember to bring something with me. But, really, FRC is going to become more and more of a "trust the fixed gear at your own peril" kinda place. No power drills allowed, and I am not about to hand drill, so, unless the FS gives us a free day to use the bosch out there, don't see it getting better any time soon.
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Re: Funk Rock - food for thought

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Wes wrote:No power drills allowed, and I am not about to hand drill, so, unless the FS gives us a free day to use the bosch out there, don't see it getting better any time soon.
If a power drill were to operate in the middle of the forest, and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?
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Re: Funk Rock - food for thought

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michaelarmand wrote:
Wes wrote:No power drills allowed, and I am not about to hand drill, so, unless the FS gives us a free day to use the bosch out there, don't see it getting better any time soon.
If a power drill were to operate in the middle of the forest, and nobody hears it, does it make a sound?
Yep.

I have long pondered stealth rebolting there, but don't think I will. If the FS doesn't allow power tools, then "someone" needs to get in there with a hand drill, or we can let the routes decay to the point that the need to be closed.
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so, with enough beer and a walkie talkie I could be persuaded to not climb for a day and camp out at the trail head while someone cranked that "hand drill" really fast. Enough fools for a game of poker would make it more likely but I would take what I can get. :wink:
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As much as anybody might have the urge for stealth bolting give it a rest. Would it really be worth the risk of pissing off someone in the FS and jeopardizing the future promise of being able to establish new sport climbs (albeit not in the Clifty Wilderness)?
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don't worry captain. everyone knows I would just bail anyway. :roll:
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I have a pika drill but I think the bits are all 3/8" if someone was so inclined to make the effort-well PM
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First, Savage, thank you for questioning and for being a responsible Red River Gorge climber.

Second, ASK, thank you for responding and for also being a responsible climber. I really, really hope that your winter ascent of the Diamond (CO). good luck!
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Post by caribe »

Someone has to talk to the FS. It seems like the relationship between the RRGCC and the FS is distant and cold at best. We really need to do something legally about Funk Rock and a few other places in the red.
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maybe you should attend an RRGCC meeting and figure out what the hell you're talking about Art.
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