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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:33 am
by weber
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Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:02 am
by cliftongifford
Excellent advice!

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:27 am
by clif
RICK

Thank you for the excellent posts.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:00 pm
by Wes
Rick and WOSAR(tm) to the rescue!!!!

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:32 pm
by sgauss
Just out of curiousity, since I'm coming from a large metro area, are the EMTs generally volunteers around the Red?

And having given a hand to a responding EMT once, the total amount of gear can be pretty heavy, and wasn't well packaged for carrying much further than from a curb to the front door in a suburban neighborhood. Is the gear any better packaged for remote access situations?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:39 pm
by anticlmber
sometimes but its just like the city, sometimes its a one story ranch, sometimes its a 30 floor apt. and the elevator is out.

remember folks, its okay to ease into, back off of, not do something if you don't feel comfortable. if your friends jeer you, F them!! if you want to stay in this game then you call the shots. might be a case of the dripping snatch scaring you but it might be common sense, although i hear that isn't going around much these days.

be safe.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:42 pm
by clif
weber wrote:Just some friendly advice: Regardless of the type of injury you sustain in a fall, there could also be injury to your spine that may not be apparent - especially if another injury is serious enough to mask the back pain. Happens all the time.

Couple examples: Mark Wellman, the paraplegic who jugged his way up the Nose of El Cap twice, advices all to stay put after a fall. Let the medics get you to definitive care on a backboard and let them assess your injuries. Mark stumbled and fell while trail running back to the parking lot after a day of climbing. Hurt his back, and his buddy told him to sit tight while he got help. Mark said he was fine, got up took a couple steps, and a broken vertebra severed his spine.


i didn't know this background. this just puts my heart in my throat. praise God and the rock angels.

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:42 pm
by bob
If it don’t hurt it ain’t broke, all personal injury lawyers to the contrary. If you can walk the likelihood of a “distracting injuryâ€

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:24 pm
by krampus
words of wisdom from Dr. Bob.

And just a few more from my late father.

"shithead, don't be stupid"

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:31 pm
by clif
if i could add the obvious, if you can't stand up it's probably an indication of deeper concerns; pain, tingling, poop, wriggling and odd feelings aside.