Out west sport climbing? A joke...

Post by **rhunt** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:57 pm

Or when its sweaty and hot at the red - stay home and do one of the million other cool fun things there are to do outside. Then when mid Aug/Sept comes around start back in the gym to get ready for climbing season.

Post by **Barnacle Ben** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:57 pm

We are getting 'out west' weather here this weekend and my dumb ass is going to Denver for a concert where it is 88 right now. Oops.

Post by **rustyvasectomy** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:31 pm

Acutally, come to think of it, the red has pretty much the best conditions out of any place in the country. Its really one of the only places where you can climb year round... Sure its sweaty in the summer, but its still doable. Spring and fall are obviously great. Winter is amazing as well, 30s and sunny is the best conditions for many crags (solar collector, GMC, Marley etc). Good luck trying to find a western crag where you can climb year round.
Summer is actually an amazing time to scale all those cracks the traddies are so fond off. Just be careful to not talk too loud about what you have done... If the traddies catch wind of you sending their sacred crack-ups, they might start worshipping you and generally following you around. This is easy to avoid (traddies don't move fast because of their decrepit nature) but still annoying.

Post by **flashmaster** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:41 pm

I agree with Wes, Love the Red with a passion but hate the weather but still love it enough to deal with it for a few months every year. If I could move the Red to CO or someplace in Cali. (Not only the climbing but the whole atmosphere and community) I would never leave..... Ever. The west has us beat for the weather for sure but we have the quality.

Post by **reospeed** » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:45 pm

I lived in Idyllwild, CA for a bit, and thought it was awesome (not a lot of great sport climbing) BUT super close to Jtree for winter climbing...and had Idyllwild for summer climbing...plus Red Rocks was 4 hours a way, and Yosemite and Bishop werent much further. The Red is great, but I love California!

Post by **allah** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:58 am

get over yourselves, the red is old news move on, boring and is a full on pile. have fun with your shit climbing.

Post by **Steve** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:45 pm

Bishop = good weather ?!?! Too hot in the summer. ORG is in a hole with a hydro plant and water supply for LA. LA! Plus you can't see the beautiful Sierra range when you're down in a hole.

Red Rocks...to near Vegas. Vegas sucks.

J-Tree has sport routes?

The Red is where its at for craggin'. Plenty of routes, easy approaches (no death choss scrambles), quality lines, mostly well thought out route development, a good guidebook, and Miguel's pizza. I'd say the Red is the worst kept secret in US climbing areas hands down.

Squamish has been nice for trad cragging thus far, but it doesn't count as its not in the US.

Post by **Wes** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 7:13 pm

Steve wrote:Bishop = good weather ?!?! Too hot in the summer. ORG is in a hole with a hydro plant and water supply for LA. LA! Plus you can't see the beautiful Sierra range when you're down in a hole.

"tis but a short drive up the hill to mammoth, or even T-meadows from bishop. Which is one of the nice things about being there - you have easy access to stuff at 4,000 feet, all the way up to nearly 11,000 feet.

Post by **schwagpad** » Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:34 pm

The problem isn't the west, it's your insistence on clipping bolts. I'm sure we have no disagreement that the overall variety of rock climbing in the west kicks the shit out of anything back east. Rjight?

Post by **SCIN** » Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:01 am

The limestone of Lander kicks ass. I have dreams about it. It's in the West. The East has no limestone like that.