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Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:57 pm
by GumbyJim
der uber, thanks for answering.

The guidebooks always indicate trad or sport, and I'm not quite off of the top rope yet. So guidebooks have left me thinking, "Yeah, but it can it be top roped?" :oops:

I've been reading plenty. I've been out with guides. I've collected a modest amount of gear. I now have just enough information, and experience to go out and make a splash. :shock:

Yeah, definitely not climbing unless it's with people who know what they're doing.

Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:55 pm
by krampus
and any more, strong climber does not mean experienced

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:49 pm
by steep4me
It's just toproping. You can toprope a sport climb or toprope a trad climb, but it still won't qualify as climbing trad or sport unless you are leading. The designation is about how you protect yourself on lead. So if you are not leading, the designation is kind of irrelevant. I don't think people call it "Trad anchor" or "Sport anchor"

What the hell is slingshot toproping? Is that versus seconding, because the rope goes up and then back to the ground, like a slingshot? :roll:

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:19 pm
by bcombs
steep4me wrote:I don't think people call it "Trad anchor" or "Sport anchor"
So when I'm in J-Tree Top Roping on a gear anchor that the leader built is that a trad anchor or sport anchor? :)

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:30 pm
by steep4me
bcombs wrote:
steep4me wrote:I don't think people call it "Trad anchor" or "Sport anchor"
So when I'm in J-Tree Top Roping on a gear anchor that the leader built is that a trad anchor or sport anchor? :)
It means you are clueless for spending time climbing at J-tree :roll:

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:54 pm
by bcombs
Heh, yeah.. J-Tree what a pile. What was I thinking?

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 4:56 pm
by GumbyJim
steep4me wrote:
What the hell is slingshot toproping? Is that versus seconding, because the rope goes up and then back to the ground, like a slingshot? :roll:
In one of Luebben's books, he describes it as "In slingshot top-roping, the rope runs from the belayer up to the top anchors and then back down to the climber." Rock Climbing: Mastering Basic Skills, Craig Leubben, pg.129.

So yeah, I guess so. :D

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:51 pm
by rhunt
That sounds like a regional term, kinda like duck-butt being the SoiLL term for gumby. Top roping is top roping, the rope is anchored at the top, it doesn't matter what kind of anchor it is - its still just top roping. Oh and don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with top roping - its the way to start climbing and a way explore harder climbing. In fact, it is the future of hard - 5.16+ - rock climbing and will soon have all the glory as lead climbing.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:58 pm
by bcombs
Hey rhunt... you are right. They are already discussing what to call head pointing super hard boulder problems while using a rope on 8a.nu.

Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 7:08 pm
by rhunt
No one would listen to me 4 years ago when I was saying that and now that 8a.nu says it, its cool.. :roll: 8)