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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:04 pm
by agentWTF
p0bray01 wrote:I was gonna say those don't look as bad as some...But IMO as with Caribe....


retire it brah. :wink:
Agreed. Retire it.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:11 pm
by pigsteak
keep it....way strong.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 1:47 pm
by Crankmas
ditto- your seatbelt will fail before that draw ya'll

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:02 pm
by jordancolburn
Saxman wrote:I think the bigger issue is how have you had draws for three years and never fallen farther than 5 feet above a bolt? Send the pic to Petzl and they will most likely send you a new dogbone.
Haha, That's probably a bigger issue than this thread. I'm a WIMP when it comes to falling, I either know i can make it, and do, or just come down until I think I can do it clean. I just don't understand how it could get so distorted when I haven't put any real stress on it.

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:23 pm
by Brentucky
the real question is why haven't you fired your belayer for giving you such hard catches?!

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 9:27 pm
by kirker
Any chance that draw could have been used in a top rope situation and not been very well equalized?

Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 11:57 pm
by jordancolburn
kirker wrote:Any chance that draw could have been used in a top rope situation and not been very well equalized?
Well, i know i've used some spirits before for toproping, but its all been bolted anchors, where things are pretty much equalized. How would that create such a load to stretch it like that?

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:37 am
by pkananen
jordancolburn wrote:
kirker wrote:Any chance that draw could have been used in a top rope situation and not been very well equalized?
Well, i know i've used some spirits before for toproping, but its all been bolted anchors, where things are pretty much equalized. How would that create such a load to stretch it like that?
It wouldn't. Assuming the material isn't defective, discrete forces applied in normal climbing situations won't cause failure of a sling like that. Things such as a sling being cut/melted/normal wear and tear over the years could cause failure.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:47 am
by Redpoint
The only way I would I would keep using it is if the manufacturer told me that it isn't a problem. A rule we use in vertical caving is: if you have a doubt stop using it or consult the manufacturer about it. I would definitely try and contact petzl, and include the pic if you do it over the net.

You can contact petzl here:
http://www.petzl.com/en/contact

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:56 am
by jordancolburn
I was on that page typing a question to petzl as you posted that. Will post their response, although I think bently might get their response on the issue before me.