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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:01 am
by L K Day
Wes wrote:
As TK said more then once - all that matters to most of you all is God, Gays and Guns. As long as a politician is on the right side of those issues, then they are totally fine, fuck all the rest of the constitution, bill of rights, etc.
That's just looney. And as for the "warrantless wiretaps" that the left had their panties in such a wad about, it looks like Obama is now for 'em.
http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2009/0 ... s-wit.html
What? Obama's turned his back on the constitution?
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:50 pm
by charlie
michaelarmand wrote:....And soon the government will be running the banks and health care...
How's that aggressively deregulated, free-market capitalism working out for you?
"Regulated" firearms doesn't mean banned, just paperwork prohibitive (so far). Regardless, gun control is about as affective as the war on drugs. We (they) get the opportunity to convict people that screw up but the buy in is hosing law biding, responsible citizens. Great in theory, horrible in practice.
I'd rather my government concern itself with roads, socialized infrastructure, and health care. Kinda with the right wing on this one. I like shooting guns.
Of course, none of this will really matter when the nuclear winter shows up.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:14 pm
by Crankmas
Habeas Coprus was suspended under Lincoln and Roosevelt as well- history is not a liberal's friend... old glory predated the rainbow flag by around two centuries.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:44 pm
by michaelarmand
charlie wrote:
How's that aggressively deregulated, free-market capitalism working out for you?
Much better than any socialist system would be treating me! I agree some important regulations have been missing. But don't blame capitalism, europe and the rest of the socialist world are in even more pain. Iceland's government collapsed!
And for those who say "give it a chance" - socialism actaully was tried right here in America. And it failed...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1029807/posts
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:57 pm
by charlie
Holy crap you just linked to the Free Republic! Thanks for making my day.
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:36 pm
by Xtant
Regulating firearms is the start of it all. Gun grabs are the last step. Registration is the first.
Ask the great citizens of Australia and Great Britain how things went down. Once a solid registration is in place, they know exactly where to find what they want to find.
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:05 am
by michaelarmand
charlie wrote:Holy crap you just linked to the Free Republic! Thanks for making my day.
Sorry, MSNBC didn't cover the pilgrims experiment with socialism. You can read the same history here if the free republic is a scary place for you....
http://forum.isi.org/eve/forums/a/tpc/f ... 1850052092
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:42 pm
by Moxxorman
"Looks like it is time to start writing representatives...and support the NRA, not just agree with them. " Yes, writing our representatives is good but the nra is not the best gun rights lobby. Go to gunowners.org thats the gun owners of america and use their action tools. The nra is basically a gun controlling lobby in disguise.