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do you find that the mags perpetuate it??

kind of like hood rats being hood rats cuz thats the shiz, or starting every conversation or question about climbing with 5.??. or when you say "you should try this its cool!" and the usual reply is, "whats it rated?"

where do the new climbers take their cues??

krampus wrote:why does an 8a account matter, don't you have a spray list on here?

oh and shit talking is just fun, hopefully no one ever takes me seriously. And if you like climbing 5.8 and only 5.8, more power to ya, cus its really just a bad ass reason to be outside. But I started as a camper/hiker and being outside is whats most important to me, sometimes I get caught up in the numbers though and forget to look around, thats when a few good days with the 5.8 climbers brings me back to perspective.

100% agree. Just enjoy it, live for the wonderul scenery and outdoor smells, the hard rain, the wind blowing your tent at night. That's all that matters.

anticlmber wrote: or when you say "you should try this its cool!" and the usual reply is, "whats it rated?"

where do the new climbers take their cues??

okay you got me......

anticlmber wrote:do you find that the mags perpetuate it??

kind of like hood rats being hood rats cuz thats the shiz, or starting every conversation or question about climbing with 5.??. or when you say "you should try this its cool!" and the usual reply is, "whats it rated?"

where do the new climbers take their cues??

Its a thin line as to weather the grade is important. When someone impatiently asks what I climbed and how hard it was because all they are trying to do is compare themselves to me, its kinda anoying. But when someone is telling about a climb they had a real good time on then I would like to know what I might be getting myself into, and am I going to enjoy it as much as they did, because I do know what level of push I enjoy the most, not saying I won't enjoy it otherwise, but am I going to make the speciel effort to get on it.

OW and Anti, i agree

what pisses me off now are the people that are so insecure they can't have a conservation about climbing w/o commentating on performance or expectations

some people, everytime you bring up a route they have to comment on how difficult or easy is must have or should have felt. "oh, i bet that felt really easy for you" "you better have onsighted that" what if i fell on it, now you made me feel like a piece of shit. if you must talk about anyone's performance, leave the passive aggressive, pecking order seeking out of it and go with a simple "oh yeah, how'd it feel today" or "nice route, eh" or better yet just leave me the fuck alone and your pigeon holing expectations of me out of your world. climb for whatever your reasons are and if they have anything to do with comparing yourself to me, continue to hang out with the rest of your "that routes not really my style" friends and precede to fuck off

ha!....while posting this i was scoping out facebook and sure enough: a friend posted a nice shot of them climbin on twinkie. one of the first comments was "you better be onsighting this!!"

who care whether or not they onsighted. the comment comes from pure insecurity

I think your signature sums it up stix.

Some lives are pitiful, others ridiculus, most are like mine both at the same time.

I thought the little ones were just called butt plugs- you know, gotta pick the right tool for the job. Or so I've heard-

It matters because it you don't climb at least 5.7, and you are otherwise healthy, then you need to take up rapelling.