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Or trying to find a stick sturdy enough to vault it. That would be hard with a full pack on.

Mj

I thought it was already washed out, or did they fix it since the last time I was there and its getting bad again.

Only part of it is washed out. The rest could go soon with more traffic.

Mj

there is good parking up the road from the turn off to take the bridge. This space would accomodate five to six cars, maybe more. It is actually the original approach before the stealth bridge approach was uncovered. It will require a new approach trail to tie into the existing one. What are the chances that a crew of volunteers could be mustered to chop out the new trail? With seven to ten people with tools it would take a few hours.

Man, I say just let the bridge crumble. The Solar Collector is a grid bolted piece of shit crag. We need Porter to put up routes again. Man, there's nothing like the good old sport climbs in the *real* Red. I'm gonna rename every route up there in the online guide and also change the First Ascentionist information. I mean shit.....people don't give a shit who climbed a route first right? People don't give a shit what the *real* name of a route is right? I'm gonna use the SC convention. SC Route 1, SC Route 2, SC Route 3. That's all that is needed to orient someone to those shit grid bolted routes.

Damn, I haven't seen that side of SCIN in a while!!

The Army COE is a beaurecratic office full of red tape and long waits to get things done (somewhat like our beloved FS). Ask the folks in communites along some of those creeks and rivers that flooded the other day (or last March, or '97). I'd say the John Bronaugh organization would be faster and much more efficient. I got no clue what bridge/road you people are talkin' about since I walked up to SC once last year just to see what was going on. I'm going to shut up now.

Most unfortunately, Scindog, we all know your diarrhiac diatribe is in jest. However, if you truely feel that way, why not back up your disdain by showing a little lack of interest and take off of your illegal online guide crags that you had nothing to do with developing nor probably will ever put forth the first iota of energy in helping support? This would be a contrite gesture on your part in deference to folks who actually do work in the Red to assure we all have a place to climb.... You know what contrition is? It is similar to humility.

Man, I was all for helping until your hillbilly ass started spraying to everyone how "the details were wrong" and there were "so many mistakes". Then I offered you the option to enter the information yourself and you said "I don't have the time". What the fuck are you doing right now? Beating off to the bbs when you could be entering route information. As if I have all the time in the world. You need to take lessons in courtesy and respect from Bronaugh if you want my help.

In the spirit of the history of the Red, I think SCIN & Lurk need to meet in Miguel's parking lot this weekend to settle the matter. Then ten years from now when we read about it in "Climbing" we can reminisce about the old days.