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surely you jest charlie...we all know, as ynp1 does, that the only REAL things that happen in this world happen in Yosemite.

You know, dirt bags stealing from dumpsters and the park store, but afraid and too lazy to work.

You know, dirt bags bitching about the crowds in Yosemite, but allowing our tax dollars to pay for the upkeep of this Nat'l Park.

You know, dirt bags for decades hitting on all the young girls, but unable to pay child support or willing to man up and shoulder the responsibility of a family.

You know, dirt bags doing the BIG walls but leaving a BIG mess of fixed lines.

You know, dirt bags having money for drugs and booze and smokes, but not enough to pay to stay legally in Camp 4.

I think those are the types of BIG things he hopes you will dream of, sir charlie.

now apologize to this astute dirt bag, so proud and smug.

i didnt say i was a dirtbag... you all are the ones that were raggin on us for bailing from the nose, while you sit 3000 miles away safe on your sport climbs...

1. i dont think you can steal from a dumbster... its trash and no i dont steal from anybody or place.

2. the valley is over crowded, but how do i have anything to do with how our taxes are spent?

3. i dont have kids that i know about, but i do like young eleven-teen year olds!

4. i have never left a fixed line

5. i dont do drugs or smoke, but i do drink a lot and i would love to pay for camping, but the park service only lets me stay for a week during the peak season, so they make me stay illegally in the park

so does the clear anything up for you piggy??? and thanks for your wise old person knowledge charlie. your sweet!

by the way elcap-pics (tom evans) is a good friend of mine and all the climbers in the valley, he gives people shit on the internet just for fun and we all know he doesnt mean anything bad by it. so it may sound like he was trashing us, but we all laughed about it when we read it.

Aid climbing is for old people. Maybe I'll do it someday.

512OW, you know a lot about aid climbing??? of course you do, your a sponsored rapper, sorry i mean climber...

I've done my share. Enough to know that it sucks. You aid. Sorry, I mean bail. I'll free.

Thanks.

yes, they "make" you camp illegally. must be some punishment. first, you say you don't steal from anyone. liar. not paying for camping is stealing. period. I love the hypocrisy. certain "ethics" rule your time on the wall, but no ethics rule your life on the ground.

you probably don't have any say on where taxes are spent, UNLESS you hold a job and pay taxes.

I have an idea, so you can sleep at night. Make a donation to the Sierra Club for all the nights you have mooched off the Ntl Park Service. That'll come to about $500 please.

btw, not a single one of my original comments were directed at you personally, since I don't know you. But you seemed quite content making a blanket statement about Kentucky climbers, so I thought I'd return the favor.

i am a ky climber and i love climbing in the red. my post was directed at the people that were trashing us for bailing off the nose. it seems that people here would be more psyched to hear about people bailing then when they do something great. aaron and i have been sending out in the valley for years and it never makes it on here, but as soon as a "kentucky team" bails on the nose it makes it on rrc.com then the door open for slander.

as for not paying for camping... i dont stay in camp 4, so why should i pay for camping? im not stealing shit, if i dont use the camp ground.

OW- you can keep freeing your way up 80 foot lines and ill keep bailing my way up 1000 meter walls.

Thanks.

yeah but i am sure that odubs 80 foot lines are 80 times harder than your 1000 meter walls...anyone can aid and bail....put your inferiority complex back in the box and keep on dirtbaggin it...

ynp1 wrote: They got a hell of a lot farther then most of a you all will ever get up el cap. so stay in ky and keep thinking your doing BIG things in this climbing world....

Yea, you're right. I guess therookie sending 50 Word for Pump isn't a BIG thing in the climbing world. I wonder why it made the front of 8a.nu though? Hmmm........strange.

SCIN wrote:

ynp1 wrote: They got a hell of a lot farther then most of a you all will ever get up el cap. so stay in ky and keep thinking your doing BIG things in this climbing world....

Yea, you're right. I guess therookie sending 50 Word for Pump isn't a BIG thing in the climbing world. I wonder why it made the front of 8a.nu though? Hmmm........strange.

shut the hell up SCIN..you think you know "big"????? you think kentucky climbers like Hume and Brown are a "big" thing? who the heck is therookie anyway? some flatlander who eats 5.13's in tennies? big whoop....let me set you straight..BIG things happen when I say they happen. REAL climbers know that Yosemite (or is it rifle? or VRG? Or the Monestary? Or that choos pile..what's it's name..oh yeah...Boulder Canyton?)...anyway, REAL climbers know that the epi center of REAL climbing is Yosemite, until the cool kids climb it out, and start doing link ups.....wait , is that back to Rifle?...