whatever happened to onsight climbing???

Post by **rhunt** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:46 am

Alan Evil wrote:So... you mean you don't brush holds either?

I do all the time, ask my belayers. But not because I want the rock face to look pretty. Remember I think the rock face looks better and or has it own unique beauty when it is all chalked up. I bush so the holds will have a better texture.

Post by **rhunt** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:50 am

Paul3eb wrote:while they may function the same for you, they differ visually and that's the topic of discussion.

It's all a matter of perspective. I see tick marks and chalked holds as the same thing. So Paul, you and I just do not agree.

Post by **rhunt** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:55 am

J-Rock wrote:Larry Day and the many of the other "old school" climbers didn't need tick marks.

They also didn't need 60 meter ropes under 11 mm in diameter and "stealth" rubber.

Things and times change...

Post by **specialed** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:57 am

blah blah blah

Post by **Wes** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:38 pm

rhunt wrote:
J-Rock wrote:Larry Day and the many of the other "old school" climbers didn't need tick marks.
They also didn't need 60 meter ropes under 11 mm in diameter and "stealth" rubber.

Things and times change...

Or roterary hammer drills, 5 piece bolts, and crash pads. You ready to give up those things?

Post by **J-Rock** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:40 pm

I was talking about tick marks, NOT chalk, ropes, rubber, drills, bolts, and crash pads. There is an obvious difference.

Post by **Wes** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:41 pm

J-Rock wrote:I was talking about tick marks, NOT chalk, ropes, rubber, drills, bolts, and crash pads. There is an obvious difference.

Is there? Which cause more impact?

Tell you what: I will give up tick marks if you start hand drilling everything...

Post by **squeezindlemmon** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:44 pm

Oh no, Wes - don't open up a different can of worms!

Enlighten me what the big difference is between motorized drilling and hand drilling as far as impact. And don't say noise pollution bec then we will also have to ban atv's and loud sport climbers!

Post by **J-Rock** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:44 pm

I don't mind tick marks (I tick mark sometimes myself), but I think people should be reasonable about it and not get carried away with excessive tick marking. Also, it would be nice if more people had the courteousy to brush them off.

Post by **Wes** » Thu Aug 11, 2005 12:45 pm

J-Rock wrote:I don't mind tick marks (I tick mark sometimes myself), but I think people should be reasonable about it and not get carried away with excessive tick marking. Also, it would be nice if more people had the courteousy to brush them off.

Amen.