beating bible-ers

Post by JB » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:03 pm

awww meadows... sorry, that post was not really about you at all. it was an analogy of sorts about belief in general... a parable if you will. we are all limited by our own experience. we are also unique and special because of it.

Post by **mgad** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:10 pm

Post by **kato** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:12 pm

charlie wrote: My only point is these things are not unique to the teachings of Christ.

I would be remiss in not mentioning that Christ did very strongly distinguish his teachings in saying that he was the only way through which a man might be reconciled to God. I know many have problems with the exclusivity of such a statement, but it would be a misrepresentation not to point it out.

charlie wrote: Well said, you are a wise man with impeccable taste in music and I think you appreciate that your interpretation is simply that, unique to yourself.

Thank you.

Post by **mgad** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:12 pm

still

Post by **mgad** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:12 pm

Post by **Zspider** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:15 pm

meetVA wrote:Scientists always have ethical debates, often time referring back to various religious backgrounds or just to their personal experiences in life and their beliefs in humanity or what is right in the world.

Just becasue they don't have it written down in a little book or someone else telling them they have to believe this or do that doesn't mean they don't have a moral structure.

I didn't say scientists were amoral. I said science is amoral. Near as I can tell, most everybody has got some set of beliefs about right and wrong. It just doesn't come from science.

ZSpider

Post by **Wes** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:16 pm

How many of you all have actually indepently researched your chosen belief system? And I don't mean just reading the bible, koran, etc. I mean reading research that is very critical of it, that may point out flaws and contrdictions. I mean, looking with a very critical eye toward how members of your belief system have acted through out history.

Post by **mgad** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:30 pm

Post by **mgad** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:35 pm

memory

Post by **rhunt** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:36 pm

Wes wrote:How many of you all have actually indepently researched your chosen belief system? And I don't mean just reading the bible, koran, etc. I mean reading research that is very critical of it, that may point out flaws and contrdictions. I mean, looking with a very critical eye toward how members of your belief system have acted through out history.

That's just it Wes, if you can't look at your own belief system with a critical eye, then in my opinion, it's just blind pointless faith.

For 15 years I was a blind "fundy" Christain. Now I look at the Bible with critical eyes, I don't just read it literally, it's not all black and white, it doesn't have all the answer to my 21st. century life....it was written mostly by regular people like you and I in ancient times..

I can be critical of the Bible and my Christian faith and still be a Christian...that's what makes me a Christian.