pigsteak wrote:then why is it called "leave NO trace"?..or am I just being too literal?
There is a LEAVE NO TRACE sticker right next to the toilet paper roll at the RRO restroom. This is definitely one appropriate usage of the phrase if you want to get literal!
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery. None but ourselves can free our mind. ~Bob Marley
Thanks JB...so here I go to this great website, and I get hammered with all this sh** to buy...here it the list of "stuff" i can buy at the LNT online store...talk about using resources to profiteer. Am I the only one who gets the hypocrisy of this?
From the site:
Become a Member or Renew Here!
Outdoor Skills and Ethics Booklets
Plastic Ethics Reference Cards
Leave No Trace Books
Banners
Outdoor Posters
Pocket Guides
Frontcountry Guide
Videos
Teaching Leave No Trace Activity Guide
Teaching Leave No Trace Cookbook
Peak Pack
T-Shirts
Bumper Stickers
Lapel Pins
Patches
Baseball Caps
French Press
Insulated Mugs
Nalgene Bottles
Genuine Wham-O Recycled Frisbee
10th Anniversary Tote Bags
Spragwa,
Just for giggles and grim...try this on for size.
At Eastern Kentucky University there is a class for landscaping. Why doesn't some one on the CC propose to them that they "plan" a reclamation and stabilization of Roadside. I Know that the Prof would be more than enthusiastic to do it. They would more than likely show up with a class to implement their plan too. Call them and check it out.
Do you like apples? Well, how do you like [b]THEM APPLES[/b]
in all seriousness, i think lnt has a lot of good lessons and suggests a lot of interesting things to think about. just because an idea falls short in some respects doesn't mean you should throw it out completely. otherwise, we'd lose every emergency room in the country..
and great loves will one day have to part -smashing pumpkins
ZSpider, so just in case you were serious, let me ask this: do you really think we should just keep doing exactly what we're doing? keep going up there and digging up rocks so we can reach the start holds, and then add a bolt in a few years and up the rating when the start is 5 feet longer and without holds, struggle to enjoy the extra 20 feet of offwidth at the bottom of Roadside Attraction, and just say "who cares, i want to climb now!"?
Do you really think it's the same thing? are you that simple-minded and short-sighted to compare natural erosion to what's happening at the crag?
[size=75]i may be weak, but i have bad technique[/size]
