unbelieveable, i know..

Post by **kneebar** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:20 pm

Wes, Don't you see we are giving up "freedom" doing all the things you say!

I do agree its the long term affect that matters. Let's say in the future we get the sherriff to post a deputy at every parking area, it wouldn't be long before climbers would complain about that infringement. There is no easy answer.

Post by **charlie** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:29 pm

Nothing that you do will have any noticable effect on theft in the Red. ** This has been going on forever and will continue long after these threads die.

**except, maybe, not leaving shit in your car right after you heard a ton of people talk about the breakins in the EXACT SAME PLACE you plan on climbing.

Post by **Texas Pete** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:29 pm

Post by **kneebar** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:03 pm

Wes, charlie, You are both right, somebody just has to take it up the ass once in a while if they leave stuff in there cars. I guess the best thing is to drive a beater and leave the doors unlocked. Just sucks it has to be that way. It makes it tough for people on a road trip. They don't always know the situation. Big ass lockers at the rest area would be nice.....I can dream still.

Post by **Wes** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:50 pm

Two things need to happen for long tem solution:

1: We need to remove the oppertunity for them to get anything in return for breaking into cars, thus no valuables, fewer cars, etc.

2: We need to make it very uncomfortable for them to drive around looking for targets. Very visable patrols, check points, survalence, etc.

Post by **pigsteak** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:11 pm

charlie is right..I remember when I started climbing at the Red over 10 years ago...same stories, different decade.

Post by **kato** » Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:48 pm

Different drug fix, too.

Post by **Paul3eb** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:21 am

charlie wrote:**except, maybe, not leaving shit in your car right after you heard a ton of people talk about the breakins in the EXACT SAME PLACE you plan on climbing.

i guess you're right and i should be apologizing.. sorry.

Post by **Yasmeen** » Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:34 am

kneebar wrote:Big ass lockers at the rest area would be nice.....I can dream still.

I can fit all my stuff into the lockers behind Miguel's-- I've used those quite a bit since Chester and Tony brought them down a year or two ago.

Post by **marathonmedic** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:03 am

Take everything out of your car that you wouldn't want stolen and then just leave it unlocked with the windows down. Then it won't be hot at the end of the day and you know nothing will be missing.