unbelieveable, i know..

[Yasmeen]

You should both wait and climb Thursday. I hear there are two lady ropeguns for hire that day.

Paul, I'll chip in, but only if you ride a bright yellow bike with a banana seat and a little bell that goes "ching ching!" everytime you ring it.

[Paul3eb]

haha.. i actually have the bright yellow bike part down..

i guess that's a no on the bike thing.. that's alright. more climbing, right?

[SikMonkey]

Damn man, that really sux. So what climb were you on when you blew that clip and broke your arm?

Mj

[kneebar]

So Paul, you planning on going all Rambo on somebody breaking into cars? That is if you spot them first before they see you on your yellow bike.

[meetVA]

Call Keith and ask for some rage advice.

Though seriously. Hugh mentioned this idea before maybe this is the season for reason:

"How long has this been an on going problem? Years. It isn't the same people committing the break ins. It is different groups of people (albeit, unscrupulous people) reacting to the same factors- those factors are- easy pickins in a secluded location.
... organize a few volunteers and coordinate with the State Police, and set up watches on the busy days. these volunteers would have video cameras (maybe two different vantage points on the parking lots to assure they get good looks at the criminals) and catch these guys on tape (or digital- whatever) along with license plates or descriptions . These volunteers would need to be willing to appear in court to testify.
the Commonwealth Attorney and State Police have both said that this is what it takes to get a conviction. Given how often these break ins occur, it wouldn't be hard to get this evidence.
Do this with a few serial break in events, and local crminlas would soon get the message that they can't get away with it.
As of now, they know they can.
Like a biology prof of mine once said- "If you have food and shelter for cockroaches, you will have cockroaches." "

[Paul3eb]

i serious about riding around down there to patrol.. i have my video camera, too. i'd feel better about it if someone else were with me just in case i did catch them in the act and they decided they didn't like me anymore.. but i'm willing to do it, definitely. the only reason i ask for donations would so that i could feel like i'm working for some money to buy back some of the stuff i lost.. and to help justify not climbing

[kato]

have video cameras

Give 'em laser pointers, too. Nothing like a little red dot on your chest to make you reconsider what you are doing.

[J-Rock]

How about the little triangle laser sights that Predator used? That would be cool too!

[kneebar]

And you could have the laser attached to a sniper rifle!

But seriously, would it be worth putting together a letter to the state and local law enforcement, and the governor stating our concerns. Included could be past and present break-ins. Signed by all the climbers. I suck at writing letters, but would love to sign something. Perhaps the letter could go around to all the gyms. Just a thought. Probably nothing new.

[Wes]

The problem is that if you want more security, then you have to be willing to give up some freedom. Like, carpooling down. Not leaving anything in your car. Gates, anyone? Better locks and alarms? The paradox of security is that to have more of it, you have to be willing to put up with more hassle. So, while everyone is all fired up now, even if you catch a person or two in the act and get them to go to jail for a month or two, how many of you all are willing to give up something long term to make sure it doesn't start happening again in a month or two? Because it will. The same thing has been happening here and at twall for years. People get all pissed of on the internet and all, but in a few weeks, things will be back to normal, and you all will not be willing to keep doing the things it takes to deny them even the oppertunity to steal something.