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Should gym climbers be considered real rock climbers?

Yes
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19%
Maybe
14
20%
No
23
33%
Hell no!
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28%
 
Total votes: 69

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ynot
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Post by ynot »

I better straiten and quit "goofing off" or no one in here will take me serious.
So what? I get lost and dont care. I did it again Saturday. Big deal.What does that have to do with being a climber?
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Post by Alan Evil »

Yeah, I'm with Master Ynot on this one. Wandering around lost in the woods should be a great day even if you don't get to climb. I'd rather spend a day lost in the woods than a day in a building.

As a matter of a fact, any day spent in the woods is better than any day spent in a building. A possible exception might be a romantic interlude of some sort, but even that would probably be better outside.

The whole idea of striking off into the wilderness to reach, or not reach, a goal of some sort is exactly what mountaineering is all about. In the Red it's a one day thing while climbing an unclimbed or rarely climbed peak might be a two month thing. They're echoes of each other. Hiking up an easy trail to a crag close to a road is the antithesis of mountaineering. Hiking five miles up a draw but not finding your wall is very similar to mountaineering. Hell, at least with mountaineering you can see your destination most of the time.

And I don't think gymn climbers should be considered rock climbers. They're athletes that climb but until you're ready and prepared to hike to a crag, set up, and climb unknown surfaces (no colored tape to mark where to grab) you're not a rock climber by any means. Let's include sweating and shivering in the equation. Working out in a 72 degrees, low humidity space is a lot different than hanging on to rock at 90 degrees and full summer humidity after hiking 5 miles or belaying someone in a snowstorm.

C'mon, punch me in the stomach. See?!? I'm a bad ass mofo because I climb outside! Yeah!!!

:D

I really don't care. I'd just rather go hiking to climb than pay money to a gymn. But that's just me. Everybody's a climber. Even if they don't climb.

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Post by weber »

ynp1 wrote:muir valley is the same as gym climbing....
:?:

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Post by Christian »

Over the years I was so goal-oriented and ,of course, didn't realize"the journey is the goal"(I know it is a cliche but that doesn't make it wrong). The more I am present with what is right now the more serenity I experience.
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Post by tomdarch »

ynot wrote:I better straiten and quit "goofing off" or no one in here will take me serious.
So what? I get lost and dont care. I did it again Saturday. Big deal.What does that have to do with being a climber?
I'm not trying to say that you're a bad person or anything. I'm just trying to put a different perspective out there. To me a 'real climber' is serious about the climbing itself, wether it's on rock or plastic.

But the overarching thing goes along with Sprag's (current?) tag line: The person who's having the most fun doing whatever (climbing plastic, getting lost, whatever) is the real winner.
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Post by ynot »

Your opinion is valid. Mine could change any day. Bushwacking is wearing on me.
Its not fun. Climbing however is still central to my character. I did find some lines while I was fighting my way through wet vegatation and pychotic killer Rhodos.
Oh and I found a cool frisbee, a taurpin,and several snakes.
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