Easy Lead Routes

Post by **ynot** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:40 am

One is a hard 9 and the other 7 or 8,with the cruxes at the bottom. OK as long as you stick clip.

Post by **J-Rock** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:03 am

They are probably open as long as there are not Boy Scouts on them at the time.

Post by **Alan Evil** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:10 pm

J-Rock wrote:They are probably open as long as there are not Boy Scouts on them at the time.

There is either a priest, homosexual, or other perverted joke in this sentence...

Go for that wall at Muir for good, confidence building, easy leads.

Post by **squeezindlemmon** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:27 pm

Alan, we can always count on you to read a sentence in that way.....

I'm not even sure what you meant by that but the reasoning behind that sentence is the fact that those easy routes at Torrent were put up mainly for the purpose of Boy Scout troops who come and visit the Via Ferrata but also want the experience of rock climbing thrown in. I'm pretty sure anyone can climb on these things, but it wouldn't be too hard to see if Mark's around and ask his ok before getting on them.

Post by **Alan Evil** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:41 pm

Torrent just is NOT the place for a beginning leader to work on their lead head. But then again, I've never climbed any "boy scout" routes.

If it were my property I don't think I'd let the Scouts use it but that's because of their stance on homosexuality. Though they do many great things the Scouts fall right into the pit for teaching bigotry and exclusion. That and I've never been able to start a fire with two sticks and piece of string so I'm bitter.

Post by JB » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:46 pm

when i get cold camping, i just get warm by rubbing two girl scouts together.

Post by **squeezindlemmon** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:55 pm

Alan, I'm sorry you had some bad homosexual experiences during your boy scout years. I'm sure it is *hard* to start a *fire* with two *sticks*. I understand why you'd become bitter.

Post by **Alan Evil** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:31 pm

I never made it to Boy Scout. Just Webelo (sp?). That was back in the days of Richard Nixon when gays were in the closet and the closet was crowded. But when I did reach pubescence, my "friends" in Jr. ROTC taught me how to play "shoot the mortar." Ah, those were the days...

At a costume party one time I met this "girl"* dressed as a Girl Scout. It was hotter than any Catholic schoolgirl outfit I've ever seen. She wouldn't show me how to start a fire with two sticks either...

*I put quotes around girl because she was in her mid twenties with the body of a Playboy Bunny.

Post by **chriss** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:50 pm

busty wrote:What about the routes at Torrent with the Boy Scout names? Are these ok routes for beginning sport leading? Are these even open to everyone?

There o.k. Me and my wife did them several weeks ago. The two to the way left would be good easy beginer leads (not that great of routes though.) The two farther to the right are better but a little harder, probally a 7 and an 8. For a beginner leader maybe stickclip the first bolt and they would be good.

Post by **busty** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 6:35 pm

Alan Evil wrote:Torrent just is NOT the place for a beginning leader to work on their lead head. But then again, I've never climbed any "boy scout" routes.

I thought I specifically asked for info about the boy scout "themed" routes only?

Anyway, thanks to everyone who posted info about these routes.