Benny

Post by **Sunshine** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:28 pm

So who gets to name the route? You know, the one on which Kenny did all the WORK or the one that Benny (Kenny and Benny. Now that's a route name if I have ever seen one!) who did absolutely nothing to or for, but walk up to and probably on-sighted it.

Post by **the lurkist** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:39 pm

It is Kenny's route. He names it. I only hope it is a fitting and appropriate name.

Post by **Sunshine** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:54 pm

So, if someone does all the work to bolt a route well within their climbing ability and they don't climb it first for whatever reason, they don't get to name it? With trad lines OK, nature did all the work, but for sport routes, that's gay. And wrong. I think it is more important to know who developed a route than who climbed it first. I truly believe and feel if you bolt it and can do it, you name it. However, if you bolt routes over you head and could never send, that's different.

Post by **Sunshine** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 12:56 pm

Kenny. Benny. I'm old and often confused. Someone help me. I don't even know what I'm doing here. Wanna get high?

Post by **allah** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:01 pm

I named the route, "Fiddy" for the fifty dollars that is being paid for my hour of work and the 15 to 20 dollars of hardware I put on it. I Think I should have charged more, but then I thought I coudlnt have such a cool name with such a story line.

Post by **longlegsrule** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:31 pm

sorry this happened allah

Post by **Lateralus** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:53 pm

I don't care who sends a sport climb first, what exactly does that do for the climbing community, especially a thoughtless stealth ascent? Unless it's some type of groundbreaking ascent it's really no different than another person coming up and doing the same thing the next day? We have no shortage of people who can climb hard and certainly no shortage of selfish climbers. To me the guy who did this is just another insignificant statistic. In my opinion, developers deserve all the credit for establishing sport climbs. Rarely are they some guy who can't climb and owns a drill and bolts a bunch of stuff they will never send. When I walk up to a new line I think about the effort to bolt it and if it was done in good style. I usually say a little thank you to the usually unkown bolter/cleaners/trail builder/equipment purchaser, because without their unselfishness and hard work I obviously wouldn't be climbing the thing in the first place. Thanks Kenny, I really appreciate your efforts 8)

Post by **herbalist** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 1:58 pm

Benny said he was sorry and talked to kenny it should be between them,i say its over....Till benny sends your project.Boy can climb hard.

Post by **Sunshine** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:14 pm

Roger, over. What's our vector, Victor? Huh?

Post by **Paul3eb** » Tue Apr 12, 2005 2:19 pm

allah, maybe a cool name to keep the purgatory type theme going would be "thirty pieces of silver"?