Anchors atop FFD

Post by **Ascentionist** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:49 pm

haas, we'll definitely head out ther if you want. There's lots of rock. And some suprisingly good. I haven't walked all of it either, though I'm getting frighteningly close.

Post by **haas** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:50 pm

Ascentionist, sounds good, I'll give you a shout after next Sunday when I move down there

Post by **squeezindlemmon** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:51 pm

Are you guys talking about Whitesides in NC? I'm from Greenville, SC and never really paid attention to it, but the first time Jared went home with me to visit my parents, he pointed it out and sure enough, you can see Whitesides from my backyard

! I still've never been there

. Although I've made it to the Bald

!

Post by **Steve** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:28 pm

Ascentionist wrote:Ok, I'll go play somewhere else. Can I take those bolts on top of FFD in case I find somewhere better to put them?

Sure.

Post by **Steve** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:37 pm

I didn't aim to start the whole freakin' debate all over again, but I knew it would happen. I'm opposed to top anchors on FFD, but I would (have) submit to the will of the masses. It is Roadside Crag, an over-used, worn out, needs some rest crag. I feel guilty for going there now. Bottom line is that if you're going to place some anchors, bolts, etc do it right.

Post by **Ascentionist** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:39 pm

Well said Steve. Where were you a couple hour ago so I'd've kept my mouth shut.

Post by **Steve** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 3:43 pm

Ascentionist wrote:Well said Steve. Where were you a couple hour ago so I'd've kept my mouth shut.

Working. And there is now way I could keep you (or others around here) from opening your mouth.

Post by **Sunshine** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:12 pm

While top-ropping thru the new anchors should we use a grigri or an ATC type device?

Post by **Ascentionist** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:21 pm

Hip belay Sunshine, saves the metal from fatiguing.

Sorry Steve. Its not really your responsibility to baby sit us all, I know.

But it was your can of worms...

I opened it though. I apologize. I'm SUPPOSED to be working. Good thing Matt's not my boss anymore or he'd see me posting as he lurked.

Post by JB » Thu Mar 31, 2005 4:31 pm

sunshine, you use a muenter hitch. belay devices like the gri gri and atc have brought convenience to climbing. convenience is bad. minimalistic-old-schoolism is the way to go. no sticky rubber shoes or chalk on FFD either. and no cams. stupid cams are too convenient...

i hate the cheapening of the sport as much as anyone... (especially after watching gumbies try to kill themselves at the gumby wall(rebel branch) in muir valley on wednesday) but it's a rough job to define something as slippery as ethics.

i've done minas tirith without chalk... just like hackworth said i should.