redpoint vs. onsight

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what's the letter grade difference between your hardest redpoint and hardest onsight?

same
9
15%
one
7
12%
two
12
20%
three
18
30%
four (full number)
12
20%
five
1
2%
more than five
1
2%
 
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Roentgen Ray
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Post by Roentgen Ray »

If you're a newbie and you just redpointed it, then it's 12a. But if you're an old crusty who speaks for the embitterment of the climbing newbies, it's 11c/d.
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Roentgen Ray
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Post by Roentgen Ray »

Meadows, please don't have me bumped. I couldn't resist.
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rockstar
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Post by rockstar »

i don't think it is the most controversial climb in the red. the grade may be the most contested but not controversial.

still old school 9
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usccabum1985
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Post by usccabum1985 »

For two years my hardest red point was also my hardist onsite 11b. :cry: but It dosent matter to me. I guess my onsite abbility has gone up, but then agen I only boulder now. So my hardest onsite would be V5 and hardist problome is Sigone and they change the rating almost every year. V6 whin I did it now its back up to V7? WTF? But serosly folks go to the buttermilks and try Sigone, its the shit.
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neuroshock
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Post by neuroshock »

usccabum1985 wrote:So my hardest onsite would be V5 and hardist problome is Sigone and they change the rating almost every year. V6 whin I did it now its back up to V7? WTF? But serosly folks go to the buttermilks and try Sigone, its the shit.
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i thought that "Saigon" was V5 and "Saigon Direct" was V7 (not from personal experience--from a guidebook)

the Direct variation doesn't make the traverse rightward?
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