Ethical Dillema

Post by **haas** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:59 am

Agreed. I can bitch about style and/or ethics all night because I can be an elitist about it at times, but in the end the only thing I think that matters is that you are honest about your style. That and don't ruin the rock for the next guy

Post by **sumdog** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:29 am

just climb for yourself and don't worry about what everybody is doing!!! later on y'all!!!

Post by **512OW** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:53 am

Wes wrote:
512OW wrote: On another note, I don't understand stick clipping. People will go do boulder problems, and then stick clip the first bolt of everything....I don't get it.
You don't get it because you are dumb. Bouldering is bouldering. Sport climbing is sport climbing. Tard climbing is tard climbing. Life is simple when you just let things be what they are.

Wes

So is toproping the same as bouldering? Or is toproping just toproping? Cuz John Gill toproped some of his most famous boulder problems. Someone should tell that guy that he isn't a bouldering legend, hes just a pansy toproping legend.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:58 am

Wes wrote:
512OW wrote: On another note, I don't understand stick clipping. People will go do boulder problems, and then stick clip the first bolt of everything....I don't get it.
You don't get it because you are dumb. Bouldering is bouldering. Sport climbing is sport climbing. Tard climbing is tard climbing. Life is simple when you just let things be what they are.

Wes

Plus, if you "let things be what they are", then sport climbing never would have "evolved" into the stick clip era. It would have stayed what it was....slightly more bold than toproping.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:00 am

By the way, Wes, whats the fairy ass quote you've got under your posts?

Post by **andy_lemon** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:46 am

A preplaced cam is like clipping a bolt. END.

Post by **ynot** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 6:58 am

It's all cofusing to anyone coming up through the numbers when you are taught one thing and then hear about topnotch climbers doing another.I guess it's evolution.It all evolved from mountain climbing.It just seems that standards have been lowered to reach bigger numbers.Isn't that bringing it down to a lower level?
The only way to avoid the delema is to free solo.Let em argue about that send.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:02 am

ynot wrote:It's all cofusing to anyone coming up through the numbers when you are taught one thing and then hear about topnotch climbers doing another.I guess it's evolution.It all evolved from mountain climbing.It just seems that standards have been lowered to reach bigger numbers.Isn't that bringing it down to a lower level?
The only way to avoid the delema is to free solo.Let em argue about that send.

They done did it....sticky rubber, chalk, blah blah blah blah blah blahb lahb alhb ablhb alhba lahb alhb albha blahb.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:05 am

andy_lemon wrote:A preplaced cam is like clipping a bolt. END.

Thank you. I'll be sticking to my guns. In 8 words you've convinced me that my ethical view is the correct one.

Post by **512OW** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:10 am

Wes wrote:
512OW wrote: On another note, I don't understand stick clipping. People will go do boulder problems, and then stick clip the first bolt of everything....I don't get it.
You don't get it because you are dumb. Bouldering is bouldering. Sport climbing is sport climbing. Tard climbing is tard climbing. Life is simple when you just let things be what they are.

Wes

"So you just remember who you're working for, keep a civil tongue in your head, and try to answer my questions with a bit of civility."

- J.R. Ewing, from "Dallas"

I like my new tag Wes, thanks.