If you really want the concept behind a gri-gri but don't want to spend the money, look into getting a trango cinch. I heard it is more flexible than the gri as far as accomodating different rope dia....
GWG is right, gear slings are usually used for trad gear.
Also, look into rope bags that has a tarp already with it. That'll help in the maintenance of your rope. The metolius ones are great!
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squeezindlemmon
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GWG - didn't I see you using a gear sling for your colostomy bag?-
squeezindlemmon
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When you start shopping for trad gear, here is my reccomendation to get started: Buy a set of Wild Country Rocks (wired stoppers, $1 - 10) Only 67 bucks from Mountain Gear. Black diamond copied Wild Country, but the curve is too radical, and they are harder to clean. Stay away from all the immitations (Trango, ABC etc.)
Then buy a .5, 1.0, and 1.5 tricam. Finally purchase #1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5 Wild Country forged friends. Cut off the spectra slings off the ends, and thread the little hole near the cams with 5.5 mil spectra cord. At $35 a pop (mt. gear) you can't beat this deal. Forged friends will last forever.
This is a pretty good basic rack. Eventually you may want to double up on some of the medium sized friends (or B.D camalots), as well as the #5,6,7 stoppers. Also pick up about 4 two-foot runners to cut down on rope drag.
Then buy a .5, 1.0, and 1.5 tricam. Finally purchase #1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3, 3.5 Wild Country forged friends. Cut off the spectra slings off the ends, and thread the little hole near the cams with 5.5 mil spectra cord. At $35 a pop (mt. gear) you can't beat this deal. Forged friends will last forever.
This is a pretty good basic rack. Eventually you may want to double up on some of the medium sized friends (or B.D camalots), as well as the #5,6,7 stoppers. Also pick up about 4 two-foot runners to cut down on rope drag.
Buy the Dirt-bagger 6 packs of draws from Omega Pacific. They come with 6 draws and a locker for $59 +tax!! Send me a PM, I'll shoot you a package price for the whole lot.
Oh man, he is messing that up. However, he is missing his left leg so that way would probably be harder for him. SCIN, just before spraying some beta for a climber doing a route the WRONG way.
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I thought OP stuff was breaking?goodguy wrote:Buy the Dirt-bagger 6 packs of draws from Omega Pacific. They come with 6 draws and a locker for $59 +tax!! Send me a PM, I'll shoot you a package price for the whole lot.
And, you don't need a rope bag necessarily...you can learn how to coil your rope and throw it on your back...the only thing a rope bag is good for is keeping your rope off the ground while you belay...but if you already have some bag of sorts that you carry your gear in to the crag...you can just lay your rope on top of this...or just get a small tarp...although if you have the $ go ahead and get a rope bag...
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The rope in this package is rated for just 6 falls. Since you are just starting to lead, I would look for a rope that has a higher number of falls rating. Mountain Gear and Shoreline both have sport packages as well. Each of these companies give discounts when multiple draws are purchased.
The rope in this package is rated for just 6 falls. Since you are just starting to lead, I would look for a rope that has a higher number of falls rating. Mountain Gear and Shoreline both have sport packages as well. Each of these companies give discounts when multiple draws are purchased.
I recently went through the same sport gear buying rampage that it sounds like you're up for. I'm of the mind that it's better to get what you want first than get something cheap, only to replace it later. I ended up making most of my draws from BD dogbones and BD wiregates, hotiwires and livewires, although this was not inexpensive. I am really happy with the wiregates, as my clips are easier on both ends of the draw with the wiregates than with standard biners.
I'm not sure how, if at all, that might affect your decision, but I just wanted to throw out my happy-with-wiregate sentiment. It has been worth it for me to invest in them, but perhaps that's because I'm a relatively horrible climber. I need all the gear advantage I can get to make up for my lack of skill.
I'm not sure how, if at all, that might affect your decision, but I just wanted to throw out my happy-with-wiregate sentiment. It has been worth it for me to invest in them, but perhaps that's because I'm a relatively horrible climber. I need all the gear advantage I can get to make up for my lack of skill.
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