Do we really want to discuss campain funding by large pharmacutical companies? The answer to that question would be found by seeing just how much money they throw around.meetVA wrote:...did anyone else notice how they both effectively evaded answering "what are you going to do about AIDS in the US? let's not talk about the world here."...
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Screw you guys. I'm going bowling.
Real Americans don't get AIDS. That's only sinners and queers that get AIDS. Haven't you been reading the Christian Coalition website? As we all know Cheney is a member of the CC and Edwards is afraid of them.
Did you know the only book available in the Grand Canyon gift shop that explains the creation of the Canyon is a Creationist text? Isn't that amazing? Let's just toss out billions of pages of scientific enquiry, by millions of people, using the scientific method of peer reviewed research for a literal interpretation of a religious text! That's how the President believes it happened so that's the only version of the story we're gonna sell.
And while I'm on it, has anyone seen the "pectoglyphs" of dinosaurs that are supposed to be proof they existed at the same time as humans? I've studied those forms quite a bit and have studied them in person. The "dinosaur" pectoglyphs look like a line drawing of a Flintstones dinosaur! Nothing like the real thing. Nothing around there even vaguely resembles the style. It's bad enough to try to force such a ridiculous explanation for the history of the universe upon others but to then vandalize rock art with cartoons and present fraud pottery as authentic is just below contempt. When your theory is so laughable you have to lie to "prove" it it's time to just shut the fuck up and keep that crap to yourself. You don't see the flat-earth people trying to get their theory taught in schools, do you? They know they're wrong but they must believe because it says in the Bible the world is flat.
And the space program is all a fraud, too.
So anyway, Cheney is one of those people who can lie to themselves so well they believe their own lies. Everything is great in Iraq. The canyons of the west were created in a few days by the Great Flood. Our ancestors froliced with Barney. Except Barney is gay. There weren't gay people (or dinosaurs) until Satan got into the picture. Right?! So we were frolicing with a T.Rex... Apparently they've never seen Jurassic Park, have they? Man. I was afraid of puddles after that movie. Teach me to go see it loaded on substances.
So, yeah. Cheney is evil incarnate. His speech at the RNC is almost a perfect copy of a Goebbel's speech introducing Hitler at a convention (quoted from an e-mail):
Thanks to Harry Browne of the Libertarian Party for bringing us this
reminder. It's a speech by Hitler's Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels,
and delivered to the German people almost 65 years ago. Nearly every line
was met with thunderous applause.
"I ask, which leader is it today that has the vision, the willpower, and
yes, the backbone to best protect us?
The clear answer to that question has placed me in this hall with you
tonight.
There is but one man to whom I am willing to entrust our future and that
man's name is Adolph Hitler.
There are some crazy men who would kill us if they could. So Adolph Hitler
has told us: 'All private plans, all private lives, have been in a sense
repealed by an overriding public danger.'
But where is the national unity in this country when we need it most?
Now, while young Germans are dying in the mud in Czechoslovakia and the
mountains of Poland, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because
of the Social Democrats manic obsession to bring down our Fuhrer.
What has happened to the nation I've spent my life working in?
I can remember when Social Democrats believed that it was the duty of
Germany to fight for freedom over tyranny.
Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Germans worked
together to ensure that freedom would not falter. But not today.
Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today's
Social Democratic leaders see Germany as an occupier, not a liberator.
And nothing makes me madder than someone calling German troops occupiers
rather than liberators.
Tell that to the Czechs, Poles, Frenchmen, and Belgians who have been freed
because Adolph Hitler led an army of liberators, not occupiers.
Tell that to the millions of men, women, and children who are free today
from the Baltics to the Crimea, from Poland to the Balkans, because Adolph
Hitler built a military of liberators, not occupiers.
Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the
freedom and liberty of total strangers than the German soldier. And our
soldiers don't just give freedom abroad; they preserve it for us here at
home.
Right now, the world just cannot afford an indecisive Germany. Fainthearted,
self-indulgence will put at risk all we care about in this world.
In this hour of danger, our Fuhrer has had the courage to stand up. And I am
proud to stand up with him.
God bless this great country and God bless Adolph Hitler."
Seem similar to you?
Did you know the only book available in the Grand Canyon gift shop that explains the creation of the Canyon is a Creationist text? Isn't that amazing? Let's just toss out billions of pages of scientific enquiry, by millions of people, using the scientific method of peer reviewed research for a literal interpretation of a religious text! That's how the President believes it happened so that's the only version of the story we're gonna sell.
And while I'm on it, has anyone seen the "pectoglyphs" of dinosaurs that are supposed to be proof they existed at the same time as humans? I've studied those forms quite a bit and have studied them in person. The "dinosaur" pectoglyphs look like a line drawing of a Flintstones dinosaur! Nothing like the real thing. Nothing around there even vaguely resembles the style. It's bad enough to try to force such a ridiculous explanation for the history of the universe upon others but to then vandalize rock art with cartoons and present fraud pottery as authentic is just below contempt. When your theory is so laughable you have to lie to "prove" it it's time to just shut the fuck up and keep that crap to yourself. You don't see the flat-earth people trying to get their theory taught in schools, do you? They know they're wrong but they must believe because it says in the Bible the world is flat.
And the space program is all a fraud, too.
So anyway, Cheney is one of those people who can lie to themselves so well they believe their own lies. Everything is great in Iraq. The canyons of the west were created in a few days by the Great Flood. Our ancestors froliced with Barney. Except Barney is gay. There weren't gay people (or dinosaurs) until Satan got into the picture. Right?! So we were frolicing with a T.Rex... Apparently they've never seen Jurassic Park, have they? Man. I was afraid of puddles after that movie. Teach me to go see it loaded on substances.
So, yeah. Cheney is evil incarnate. His speech at the RNC is almost a perfect copy of a Goebbel's speech introducing Hitler at a convention (quoted from an e-mail):
Thanks to Harry Browne of the Libertarian Party for bringing us this
reminder. It's a speech by Hitler's Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels,
and delivered to the German people almost 65 years ago. Nearly every line
was met with thunderous applause.
"I ask, which leader is it today that has the vision, the willpower, and
yes, the backbone to best protect us?
The clear answer to that question has placed me in this hall with you
tonight.
There is but one man to whom I am willing to entrust our future and that
man's name is Adolph Hitler.
There are some crazy men who would kill us if they could. So Adolph Hitler
has told us: 'All private plans, all private lives, have been in a sense
repealed by an overriding public danger.'
But where is the national unity in this country when we need it most?
Now, while young Germans are dying in the mud in Czechoslovakia and the
mountains of Poland, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because
of the Social Democrats manic obsession to bring down our Fuhrer.
What has happened to the nation I've spent my life working in?
I can remember when Social Democrats believed that it was the duty of
Germany to fight for freedom over tyranny.
Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Germans worked
together to ensure that freedom would not falter. But not today.
Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today's
Social Democratic leaders see Germany as an occupier, not a liberator.
And nothing makes me madder than someone calling German troops occupiers
rather than liberators.
Tell that to the Czechs, Poles, Frenchmen, and Belgians who have been freed
because Adolph Hitler led an army of liberators, not occupiers.
Tell that to the millions of men, women, and children who are free today
from the Baltics to the Crimea, from Poland to the Balkans, because Adolph
Hitler built a military of liberators, not occupiers.
Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the
freedom and liberty of total strangers than the German soldier. And our
soldiers don't just give freedom abroad; they preserve it for us here at
home.
Right now, the world just cannot afford an indecisive Germany. Fainthearted,
self-indulgence will put at risk all we care about in this world.
In this hour of danger, our Fuhrer has had the courage to stand up. And I am
proud to stand up with him.
God bless this great country and God bless Adolph Hitler."
Seem similar to you?
[size=75]You are as bad as Alan, and even he hits the mark sometimes. -charlie
"Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." - John Stuart Mill[/size]
"Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." - John Stuart Mill[/size]
no I have not been reading the Christian Coalitions website, but I did again read Yvon Chouinard's environmental piece( its on Rockclimbing.com) it is very well written and has along with most every other issue in our country steered me toward the Kerry/Edwards camp, I just thought Edwards would be better than he was due to his professional background
meetVA,
i could only find one instance of when cheney flat out wouldn't respond to edwards. there was another time when he didn't say much but that was mostly because edwards stated what cheney's case is on gay marriage and cheney's only choices were to repeat edwards or to thank him: he chose to thank him.
just keeping you on the straight and narrow
and by the way, cheney meant factcheck.org (which seems to be down for now). factcheck.com is big-time pro-kerry.
you know what's good? kettle chips..
i could only find one instance of when cheney flat out wouldn't respond to edwards. there was another time when he didn't say much but that was mostly because edwards stated what cheney's case is on gay marriage and cheney's only choices were to repeat edwards or to thank him: he chose to thank him.
just keeping you on the straight and narrow
and by the way, cheney meant factcheck.org (which seems to be down for now). factcheck.com is big-time pro-kerry.
you know what's good? kettle chips..
and great loves will one day have to part -smashing pumpkins
I've never been to the Grand Canyon though I've spent a lot of time in the Red Rocks Primitive area in the southeastern corner of Utah. I would imagine the San Juan empties into the Colorado before the Grand Canyon. The whole mystery of the Anasazi (or pre-Pueblos or "ancient ones") and their dissappearance is so huge. That's not including all the weird cowboy/conquistador/miner/pioneer stuff that swept through that part of the country.
[size=75]You are as bad as Alan, and even he hits the mark sometimes. -charlie
"Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." - John Stuart Mill[/size]
"Not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." - John Stuart Mill[/size]