Fuzzy, what happened?

Post by **rhunt** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:38 pm

sometimes I think Seneca will just be a giant boulder scree in about 50 years

Post by **gneiss** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:49 pm

sometimes I think Seneca will just be a giant boulder scree in about 50 years

hmm.. maybe there will be some decent climbing there then

Post by **squeezindlemmon** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:51 pm

be nice, gneiss

Post by **Homer** » Tue Sep 28, 2004 9:51 pm

rock is falling apart anywhere you go along with everything else. I would suggest excepting this fact in stead of ignoring it. Being in tune with what you are doing instead of mindlessly sticking your head under flakes and standing/pulling as hard as you can on holds might help. Might also save your belayer a headache. Rock demands a lot of respect no matter how well traveled...try listening...it has a lot to say.

Its an important skill to know how much weight you can put on holds before they break. Try going to Muir Valley and get on some new routes. Climb on them once trying to distibute you weight and climb lightly on questionable holds...then climb it again on TR and yard on the stuff and you will probably brake those same holds off. The place could use alot of traffic anyways.

Post by **J-Rock** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 2:39 am

Well said Homer. I definitely agree that the rock should be respected and not climbed mindlessly.

If people have a problem with loose rock, dirt, lichen, bugs, snakes, or chronic complaining then they should just stay in the gym and not even bother trying to enjoy the outdoors. Leave it for those who truly appreciate Nature's wonders.

Post by **Buster** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:03 am

Nature's wonders ?

Post by **the lurkist** » Fri Oct 01, 2004 3:29 am

you know. Tig Bitties. wet, wild, wonderful....

Post by **Zspider** » Mon Oct 04, 2004 12:02 am

I found out what you were talking about this weekend. I can't start it the same way anymore. Used to be able to use that right cling to get my left up high and solid enough in that crack to fire my right up to the little knob. No more! Gotta layback with my right above my left to shuffle my left up higher. Awkward as hell!

I better stop now. All these tears are getting my keyboard wet.

ZSpider

Post by **Joel** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 4:18 pm

RRG rock is softer than most places, but I would point out to everyone that Indian Creek, UT has even softer rock than we do. Old timers there insist that Incredible Hand Crack and Supercrack are both noticeably wider than they were before. (It may some day have to be renamed "Incredible Fist Crack." No joke.) So let's appreciate what we've got: Flakes may break off here, but edges don't get rounded off and slopey; cracks don't grow; holds don't get polished. We've got a good thing going here.

I just wish it was taller . . . .

Post by **ynot** » Wed Oct 06, 2004 9:36 pm

I know where the longer routes are Joel. 185' is about the max
We used 2 ropes to rap last sunday and the view was stellar.