The RRGCC Rocks!

Post by **Spragwa** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:54 am

Hey all. I wanted to do a thread specifically for Bob, Johnny, Shannon, Gretchen, Rhino, all CAC members and all volunteers. So, if there's any negative ideas, please post it elsewhere.

Here's why I am grateful for the RRGCC:

1. Shannon kept Military from being shut down in its entirety;
2. The PMPP is the most amazing land acquisition and it will be a climbers preserve/paradise;
3. Despite harsh criticism, long hours and daunting hurdles, the BOD is perservering to ensure that the PMPP is an amazing climbing area.
4. The BOD continues to work with Charmagne to secure access to our climbing areas and to avoid conflict where possible;
5. The BOD and the rest of the RRGCC has worked very hard to address climber's criticisms on how information is disseminated and has made great strides in this area.

Thanks all. Please keep this post positive. All volunteers deserve a HUGE pat on the back.

Post by **Gretchen** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:07 am

THanks Spragwa, that is very nice! We certainly appreciate it. One positive can go a long way!!

Post by **Christian** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:07 pm

and I like RRGCC and the people that give us water for the showers at Miguelz and I like mydogs and cat and.... 8)

Post by **air canada** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:43 pm

A HUGE thanks to RRGCC and volunteers for all the work they have done! From working with the forest service, to the PMRP and just plain old crag maintenance. Its awesome! The Red is a better place to climb because of it.

Post by **pigsteak** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 1:49 pm

I wish we had an organization with volunteers as dedicated as those of the RRGCC at my home crag (SoIll)...there are very few, if any places in the US that can boast of such a grass roots acquisition. Thanks a million for the dreams you have envisioned, and the good times you have help provide to thousands of climbers.

Post by **Andrew** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 2:15 pm

I also thank the RRGCC. I think that despite the criticism and problems, the good that they have done far outways the bad. Thanks to all the RRGCC members who develope and protect all of are great areas.

Post by **andy_lemon** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:11 pm

Your forgot a small tidbit about Shannon keeping the NFS from shutting down the whole Red River Gorge from climbing... that one time not so long ago.

Post by **ynot** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 5:58 pm

Can still happen if alot of climbers dont clean up thier act. Think about it.
Do you want your only options to be Torrent and Roadside?

Post by **Bruisebrother** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:33 pm

Y,NUT, Good point for all to take notice! There is still the usual breaking of F.S. rules, ie: littering, parking on pavement, short cutting trail switchbacks, etc.. Then there are still those who are illegally bolting in the D. B. N. F., Bolting on private property without permission, and some telling others to use thier own judgement to climb in closed areas rather than telling them to stay out! Wake-Up climbing community the F.S. is still watching us and can stop climbing if they want! The RRGCC cannot save us. Only our own actions can!

Post by **ynot** » Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:47 pm

Ynut . thats a good one. I seriously dont think there is any illeagal bolting happening,but the other things are valid.The last 2 times I went to Fortress,I picked up 6 or 8 cigarrete butts,rather than me getting blamed for them.If you bring someone along that doesnt know better,then tell them.Wes did just that
when I started climbing and I never forgot.