Ball Nut Opinions?

Post by **TradMike** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:08 pm

Does anyone utilize ball nuts for thin cracks instead of small cams or where cams don't work? Have you ever fallen on one? Are they hard to clean?

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Post by **Crankmas** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:23 pm

I have used Rock-n Rollers for years, I don't know how long they have been out and since discontinued but I have liked the way they place and they have held a few falls, I have seen my friends use ball nuts and they seem adequate in the 00-0 TCU range and smaller. Like the RnR's I find the ball nuts easy to clean, my impression of them is that they were intended as aid pieces predominantly.

Post by **Horatio Felacio** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:00 pm

ball nuts suck. i've used them a few times, i've fallen or tested them a few times, but they only held once. the one i fell on is still on the learning curve at skybridge.

Post by **kneebar** » Tue Jan 27, 2004 11:26 pm

I have a set of Trango BallNutz that I have used for years. I haven't taken a genuine fall on one yet, and would prefere not to. I have taken a few micro falls on the midsize ones and haven't had too much trouble getting them out. I worry more about the rock coming apart then the unit pulling. They typically won't walk like a cam if you give them a tug to "set them". I use the 2,3,and 4, the 1 scares me a bit in anything but granite, and the 5 is getting on the heavy side. They also far exceed the strenght rating of any cam in its range. FYI, They are made in Korea

Post by **The Pirate** » Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:04 am

I like the lowe balls, they fit where nothing else will. They have helped me get through a runout when no other piece on my rack would fit. I have fallen on the middle sized one and it held just fine. They are usally easy to clean. My partner took a good whipper on the smallest size and broke the weld on it, so it is more of a head trip thing.

Post by **Ron** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:53 am

Granite = Solid Ball Nut

Softer Sandstone = Busted Nutz

Post by **Johnny** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:04 pm

They're fine. There really isn't any other option in that range for tiny parallel cracks. They aren't that hard to get out. I just use the smallest ones since larger sizes overlap with micro cams.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:25 pm

does anyone else think that the name 'ball nutz' is rather suggestive? Climbers sure are a dirty lot, aren't they??

I have an unused Lowe Ball, circa 198-something that I'm afraid as hell to use. I do take it out and fondle it once in a while.

Post by **captain static** » Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:34 pm

I have a set of prototype ball nuts that was manufactured by CMI. I have only considered and used them as aid pieces or as an oppossition nut for a larger size piece. Sandy's right about the naming. I guess no one can resist. CMI called theirs "Blue Balls"!