Why trad just might be better than sport

Post by **Yasmeen** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:12 pm

YES!

Post by **Spray Lord** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:38 pm

Yasmeen, it seems that the reason trad is better than sport is that bearded wonders like loren, ynot, and all the others mentioned in that other thread (as well as you women who pick trad climbing as an excuse to not shave) all find a safe haven somewhere deep in those cracks.

I'm willing to be that if you poll any number of the strong, better-looking climbers who frequent The Red and ask them if they prefer Trad to Sport, the answer would be a resounding no!

Either way, I'm glad that you found your calling and have joined your brethren among the ranks of the unshaven.

Post by **kentuckysarah** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:42 pm

For some reason I get so much more excited after I climb trad than I do sport. Maybe because I thought I never would be able to. But I just love it so much. Thanks to all of you that have taken me trad climbing.

Post by **Horatio Felacio** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:08 am

i think that trad climbers like splitter hands because they are for the most part a very unintelligent, sorry excuse for human beings. i mean, you look at a route from the ground and see that it's perfect #2's the whole way, it doesn't take a rocket engineer to do that route easily. sport climbers on the other hand are quite sophisticated and require multiple facets of arm-wrenching to satisfy their appetite for climbing.

Post by **ynot** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:00 pm

I think that sport climbers like faces because they are for the most part a very unintelligent,sorry excuse for human beings.I mean,you look at a route from the ground,and see that its a strait line of bolts the whole way,it doesnt take a rocket engineer to do that route easily.Trad climbers on the other hand are quite sophisticated and require multiple facets of arm wrenching to satisfy thier appetite for climbing.

Post by JR » Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:38 pm

Good question Yasmeen. I think the real answer is because traddies love the idea of being able to climb a route comfortably that a gym rat or sport wienner is going to suffer on.

Here is the scenario....."Hey dude. You are pretty good. Do you ever climb outside?" "Not yet bearded guy. Why you gonna take me?" "Sure, I can take you REAL climb'in. I know just the spot.".........The following sunday at the red the gym rat shows up in sandals toting his 5 ten dragons. With a grin, bearded guy drags his victim up to Crack Attack. In a flash, the bearded guy has rigged a top rope. Fourty-five minutes later the bloodied and distraught climber is being lowered. "Wow, that really hurt my feet, hands and pride." With a chuckle " That was only a 5.9. You have a lot to learn friend. Boy, I feel great. This might be the best I have ever felt. Do you want to watch me climb it again?"

Post by **rhunt** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:27 pm

Man the tables can be soo turned..you guys are funny!

Post by **kentuckysarah** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:30 pm

I think I like JR's version the best

Post by **pigsteak** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:29 pm

rhunt..ignore these punters...fact is, you and I know that these lazy bums are just scared to death of training, putting in the time to get lean and mean, and of failing at their physical limits...

so they cloth it in the superiority of "trad climbing" when in reality (for most people) it is a fear of failure on hard sport routes...they can beat their chests all they want...fact is, trad climbing one pitch routes is more time consuming and boring than any day clipping bolts...

now as you and I know rhunt, multi pitch in colorado is a great time as well. ever wonder why traddies wake up at noon, get in 2-3 pitches while sitting on their asses half the day, and then call it a "great day of climbing"? and over at the lode or roadside, we are doing hundreds of feet of blissful movement over stone...doesn't even seem like a comparison to me...

Post by **meetVA** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 3:32 pm

argh, argh, argh, argh!!! (excuse me, which way to the pissing contest?)

i may be a no-good-wanna-be-climber.
i may have no power.
i may have no pull.
i may even have only delusions.
but i really like it all.
when asked, where do you want to go at the red: Up.
any way i can. it is all good.
it is all a challenge.

don't even get me started on the running vs. swimming debate.
as this thread has once again made pretty dang clear-- we are all opinionate mo-fos who think what we do is the best.
*group hug*