About your dog.

Post by **Spragwa** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:50 pm

The oil workers are just doing their jobs. They are not there to stop you from climbing and would not use force of any kind. They just erected gates at Charmagne's direction. So, what's wrong with being Southern Fried?

Post by **Spray Lord** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:58 pm

Nothing wrong with it. I like Southen Fried Chicken. I guess I just liked the way it sounds.

So they are not trying to stop us from climbing? Why the gates? Are the oil workers and Charmagne not one and the same?

Post by **kentuckysarah** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:26 pm

Then are we allowed to climb there if we walked in?

Post by **kentuckysarah** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:32 pm

Anyway about the dogs. JH, you need to approach dogs more carefully. I'm sure you do already, but don't go near them unless you have to or unless you no that they will be friendly to you. I have never had a problem with any of the dogs. I just make sure that I approach them slowly and I don't surprise or scare them. Any dog can get defensive if you move to quickly around them and scare them, you just have to be more cautious. I even scared Gunner on Sat. night when I bent over to pet him because my headlamp slipped and hit him in the head. But he came close to snapping at me. You often have to gain a dog's trust and respect.

Post by **Spragwa** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:35 pm

SL: No, they aren't. Charmagne is an oil company with executive offices and a staff of neckties making decisions. The oil workers are blue-collar, hardworking men who do what they are told so that they can continue to work. All of them that I've run accross are nice people trying to make an honest living. They aren't going to do anything illegal, they are just trying to provide for themselves and their families and keep their jobs.

Post by **TradWanker** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:59 pm

kentuckysarah wrote:Anyway about the dogs. JH, you need to approach dogs more carefully. I'm sure you do already, but don't go near them unless you have to or unless you no that they will be friendly to you. I have never had a problem with any of the dogs. I just make sure that I approach them slowly and I don't surprise or scare them. Any dog can get defensive if you move to quickly around them and scare them, you just have to be more cautious. I even scared Gunner on Sat. night when I bent over to pet him because my headlamp slipped and hit him in the head. But he came close to snapping at me. You often have to gain a dog's trust and respect.

I'm sorry, but I just don't feel we should have to tip-toe around dogs in order to climb. Most of them are running loose, and the ones that are leashed are right on the trail, or at the base of the route, so how can you not get near them? I came there to climb. If I wanted to be around dogs, I would have gone to a kennel. As I stated before, it's all about being considerate of others. I suppose some people were raised different.
Thanks again for listening,
Jeff

Post by **Jeff** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:06 pm

Go climb in a gym.
I hear they don't allow dogs.

Post by **pigsteak** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:08 pm

if I bring my boom box to the crag, will anyone care?

Post by **pigsteak** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:09 pm

sorry...I forgot..this is a "wilderness" experience for the city slickers...lol

Post by **TradWanker** » Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:11 pm

Jeff wrote:Go climb in a gym.
I hear they don't allow dogs.

That was a good one!!

Jeff