and what would it look like?
- Can it be done? That is to say, would such a route have protectable features and still be 5.15c?
I guess right now the trad grade ends at about 5.14c. Could a 5.15c trad grade be declared while leaving such a large gap between it and and the next hardest trad grade. If climbing is just climbing like a lot of people say, there should be no problem declaring this grade and leaving this gap.
- Trad been around longer than sport. Why is the upper end of the sport grade increasing so fast compared to trad? Aren't there enough mutants trying hard trad?
When are we going to see trad 5.15c?
Re: When are we going to see trad 5.15c?
I think 15c trad would invariably be R/X death...very steep learning curve
Re: When are we going to see trad 5.15c?
If Alex Honnold climbed an existing 5.15c bolted route but skipped the bolts and stuck a small cam in a pocket along the way would that be 5.15c trad?
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Re: When are we going to see trad 5.15c?
uh . . . yes. Course Honnold does not climb that hard, and certainly does not solo that hard. Point well taken though. I can see someone bouldering up 15 ft and plugging gear at natural spot and continuing another 10 ft and plugging gear in another. Perhaps it is possible to have a Proper Soul / Blean Bean story at 15c.
Re: When are we going to see trad 5.15c?
You guys should definitely spend 10-15 pages first defining what "trad" is.
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Re: When are we going to see trad 5.15c?
agreed. just a quick primer on this whole trad thing first, and THEN you fellas can get back to speculating on imaginary numerical difficulty.
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Re: When are we going to see trad 5.15c?
Climb placing removable, sustainable protection in natural features on lead.
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"sustainable" protection? Fuckin' hippies (shaking head)...
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Re: When are we going to see trad 5.15c?
Sure it exists. All you'd need is a v14 or whatever section above a crack.
Could there be a 15c crack? It's hard to imagine... maybe a long fingers roof?
Could there be a 15c crack? It's hard to imagine... maybe a long fingers roof?
Re: When are we going to see trad 5.15c?
Caribe, that's just like wondering if one could grow a 14in penis - perhaps, some day the right amount of nutrition, genetics and suction devices could achieve that end, but who the hell cares? I'd never want to experience such a monstrosity; it sounds about as painful as a 15c crack.
Or perhpas one needs a 14in penis to climb a 15c crack. No, better yet would be a .5mm thick pecker. Would that constitute aid?
Or perhpas one needs a 14in penis to climb a 15c crack. No, better yet would be a .5mm thick pecker. Would that constitute aid?