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[rjackson]

...Get your thug on, accept the fact that you're going to get dirty and get out there and brawl. You should have a blast.

When others ask why I love trad climbing in the Red, this pretty much sums it up!

[Howie Feltersnatch]

Interesting concept..... I kinda like it. So do a bunch of people. Take your rack into the woods and finds some cracks. Climb them. So simple and fun.

Whoa! I wasn't trying to induce the masses to go find new gear routes! Just trying to convince one person interested in new routing that there are more than multiple ways to skin cats. And to talk a little about about conservation of limited resources over chest thumping. The last thing I want is every buckeye with a rack in the woods.

Get your thug on, accept the fact that you're going to get dirty and get out there and brawl. You should have a blast.

I'm not into tattoos but you might have just inspired me to tattoo a picture of myself inverted with the words "thug life" across my back.

[Yasmeen]

I'm not into tattoos but you might have just inspired me to tattoo a picture of myself inverted with the words "thug life" across my back.

This reminded me of a summer years ago at Grayson Lake. At the exact same time, Don McGlone and I saw this guy's back with "CANNONBALL" tattood across it in size 256 point font. Don slowly looks over at me and shrugs, "Seemed like a good idea at the time..."

[Howie Feltersnatch]

This was posted on MP by a man named Todd Wells from Chattanooga. You won't find Todd's name sprayed about because he doesn't operate with the intention of being recognized; do not doubt however, that he is the epitome of the original southern hardman. This is in reference to a petition to allow climbing on Signal Mountain and I felt some of it was pertinent to this area and this conversation.

"Climbing has been officially banned on Signal Mountain since 1992, long before there were "20 or so easily accessed routes" that, in the words of one poster, "were probably the reason that there is a climbing ban."
Historical illiteracy aside, if climbers truly want to gain legal access to Signal Mountain cliffs (or to any other closed climbing area), the first rule is to show some respect. Comments about cops and baked goods will get predictable laughs on a climbing site, but they are ultimately counterproductive and reflect the kind of immaturity, disrespect and spoiled sense of entitlement that land managers and owners associate with rock climbers in general.
To play the devil's advocate, why would Signal Mountain officials feel compelled to allow an activity whose practitioners contribute little (or nothing) to the town tax base which will be newly burdened by the activity the practitioners want to engage in? Especially when many of the practitioners act like arrogant children? And don't flatter yourself, there are plenty of cops who could hike in to bust you for climbing illegally on Signal Mountain. Wake up, the ban is about liability exposure and the allocation of limited town resources. To many town officials and residents, climbing is still a liability, not an asset despite the Boulder-of-the-East hype you've read in Outside Magazine. And no, the Signal Mountain cops probably won't hike in to bust you, but they may tow your car.
Let's be honest, though, the petition to allow rock climbing on Signal Mountain is really a petition to allow sport climbing on Signal Mountain. But given the inevitable trash, parking problems, leash-less dogs, car break-ins, irresponsible overuse and liability exposure associated with a high-use climbing area, why would Signal Mountain want to sanction the creation of something like a Leda within the town limits? Besides climber convenience, what's in it for Signal Mountain?
But there is a remedy to the climbing ban; it is a minimalist's approach. Learn to climb with minimal impact. Leave little or no trace of your passing. Climb ground up without a power drill, without the desire to create a "climbing area," without the desire to make a name for yourself. Be discrete. Learn some humility (others came before you, often climbing in better style). You may not get your name in Urban Climber this way, but you will be able to climb anywhere."

[japones]

And then don't spray about them. New routes to onsight with absolutely no prior information are becoming less scarce all of the time. An argument could be made that by documenting your ascents and publishing them you are robbing the next generation of explorers of the opportunity to have the same experience you had. I was once told that I "owed it to the next generation of climbers" to document everything I have done so that they can know about these routes and follow them. I would argue that by documenting them I am assuring that a large portion of them cannot follow my experience because they will approach it with preconceived notions and too much information.

You wont find me disagreeing with you about "trad dads" on some accounts. Many of them simply hiding behind their inability to push themselves or reliving their old glory days (as is common in any recreational activity), but some of them are having experiences you can't have if you take out the element of the unknown.
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Climbing without any beta is my preference. Just finding something that looks fun and climbing it (or getting shut down) beats the hell out of finding a certain route of a certain grade, length, style, etc. And finding 10 year old bail gear is super satisfying.

[Cromper]

And then don't spray about them. New routes to onsight with absolutely no prior information are becoming less scarce all of the time. An argument could be made that by documenting your ascents and publishing them you are robbing the next generation of explorers of the opportunity to have the same experience you had. I was once told that I "owed it to the next generation of climbers" to document everything I have done so that they can know about these routes and follow them. I would argue that by documenting them I am assuring that a large portion of them cannot follow my experience because they will approach it with preconceived notions and too much information.

You wont find me disagreeing with you about "trad dads" on some accounts. Many of them simply hiding behind their inability to push themselves or reliving their old glory days (as is common in any recreational activity), but some of them are having experiences you can't have if you take out the element of the unknown.
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Climbing without any beta is my preference. Just finding something that looks fun and climbing it (or getting shut down) beats the hell out of finding a certain route of a certain grade, length, style, etc. And finding 10 year old bail gear is super satisfying.

Sounds like you're climbing to get pussy.

[Willy]

I don't thing Japones has had pussy since pussy had him

[Cromper]

I don't thing Japones has had pussy since pussy had him

First firefighter to get pussy in the history of firefighters and or pussy.

[whoneedsfeet]

And then don't spray about them. New routes to onsight with absolutely no prior information are becoming less scarce all of the time. An argument could be made that by documenting your ascents and publishing them you are robbing the next generation of explorers of the opportunity to have the same experience you had. I was once told that I "owed it to the next generation of climbers" to document everything I have done so that they can know about these routes and follow them. I would argue that by documenting them I am assuring that a large portion of them cannot follow my experience because they will approach it with preconceived notions and too much information.

You wont find me disagreeing with you about "trad dads" on some accounts. Many of them simply hiding behind their inability to push themselves or reliving their old glory days (as is common in any recreational activity), but some of them are having experiences you can't have if you take out the element of the unknown.
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Climbing without any beta is my preference. Just finding something that looks fun and climbing it (or getting shut down) beats the hell out of finding a certain route of a certain grade, length, style, etc. And finding 10 year old bail gear is super satisfying.

Sounds like you're climbing to get pussy.

Yeah cromper only climbs to get dick.

[MYDADPULLEDOUT]

Gay jokes aren't funny. FAGOT