Gun Control?

[Crankmas]

Fully auto or even selective fire weapons have been illegal since the 20's, the criminals knocking off banks and then spraying down .32 and .38 caliber revolver equipped police officers with drum magazines on their .45 cal Thompsons and of course Clyde Barrow with his cut-down 30.06 BAR lead to that legislation. The laws were drafted to protect the police not the general population. When the legislature passed laws that established gun-free zones they empowered criminals and no one else. The US Navy is a good example of a similar situation, when they were entering ports in the 70's many countries demanded to know if they were carring nuclear weapons, the policy developed that the US Navy could neither confirm nor deny the presence of nuclear weapons... In a free society a law abiding citizen should never be ask whether he/she was carrying a lawfull weapon, a criminal who chose to use a weapon in the commission of a crime should be deprived of ever doing either again.

[krampus]

ted the rpg was real. possibly had a faulty firing mechanism or something, that was all I could hope for. Definitely not a replicated piece of plastic, not for $1800.00 anyway (thought about buying it myself )

[ted]

thats what sucks about this whole mess, that guy carried out an RPG and now you cant even buy a cheap bushmaster for 1800$. Looking back, you should had bought two!

[clif]

-no, that's not what sucks about this whole mess.

[krampus]

I just feel like there has to be some combination of gun control/education/mental health probe/whatever that will help to minimize these mass killings. Or maybe America just suffers from a massive case of ennui and these types of thing have to happen to keep us human.

[clif]

i wish i knew what to think. i went to a gun shop for the first time a couple months back (well, had seen the racks in east tennessee at the standard department store growing up) and eventually decided that i could never shoot anyone, so why bother. i still feel guilty about braining frogs around the ponds with a bb gun--

i do worry about "The State's" monopoly on violence but don't think the 2nd amendment is sufficient to prevent some creeping/implied totalitarianism.

[ted]

I dont think the problem is complex, but a tough reality for most. American citizens are the most sheltered in the world, so when tragedy hits we stand in awe wondering how this happened. When the truth is, our "tragic days" may be just another Tuesday somewhere else. We claim to be educated and cultured, when we are neither. So what is the result when something bad happens? Knee jerk reactions. Whats the most simple solution? gun control. This is the answer from the simple minded, sheltered, sheep of our nation. Ban every gun today, bad shit will still happen at a MASS level. But what do you expect? Our schools and culture no longer teach ethics or morals. So if anything and everything go's, why not do what feels good instead of what feels right?
Most have never set foot on foreign soil and thats ok, but i challenge you to look at other nations and there history. How did they end up where they are now and why are there people risking life and limb to get here. Chances are there afraid to talk about it. But if you study it, you will find that the course of the U.S is following very close to there history. Government dependency is at an all time high (and everybody is cool with it), transfer of wealth( why are you entitled to some rich guys money? he gave you a job), and here is the gun ban. Feinstein and the rest of the libs want to say, "we want bother the hunters". When this nation was founded, the right to bear arms wasnt put into place just so we could hunt, but to keep the government and tyrants in check. My family is just as important as Obamas, and I have the right to protect it in the same manner.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7w3ZEbC09k

[doogievlg]

I think the main focus needs to be going back to the institutionalization of the crazies. We need to stop blaming the weapon and just flat out say that a person like the one responsible for the Colorado, or Sandy Hook shootings had no business being in society. I go to knob creek every year and i think that a shoot like that just proves more gun control is not needed. I mean you have a place that is loaded with every kind of machine gun known to man and there is never any violence there. I mean If i wanted to mow someone down with my cock I could.

[clif]

ted, i can sympathize with the emotional confusion, but your line of thinking strikes me as incoherent.

[krampus]

Ted, I think you just had some kind of republican brain diarrhea and tried to relate all those topics to gun control. No one is trying to take your guns (well, some people are, not the rational ones though), the rational people just want to limit peoples ability to slaughter the innocent.