Fixed Gear

[clif]

really Ian, i can't see the difference in what you are insisting upon and the status quo, which has always stood for increased education/awareness. if what Mr. Weber wrote in his post before he deleted the text about a new generation of climber's who Really Care And Know What Needs To Be Done, then it seems the problem, such as you conceive it, is solved-

[ted]

http://www.neclimbs.com/SMF_2/index.php ... 347.0.html

There ya go C2C, your raising awareness.

[shear]

Unless it's porn , folks tend to turn the channel when being preached to or told the exact thing over and over. Your mission has turned into one of those dog abuse commercials, first time ya see it , you shed a tear and think about, then after it's played 15 times during Frasier it kind of pisses you off , loses credibility and you change the channel everytime it comes on. Personally , the issue is there but is not the biggest we face in the region. I'm all about getting rid of the shit left hanging but your current approach is shooting yourself in the foot. Sit back, let it chill, talk about politics, porn or whatever it is the climbing Internet team thinks is trendy and revisit occationaly as the opportunity arises. As its going now, it's kind of goofy.

+1

Your redundancy is tired. Your unwillingness to REALLY listen to other ideas is irritating, and your holier than thou attitude is losing people, myself included. I'm all for reducing worn draws (also, stop using the term "mank" please), but anyone who has followed your approach to the question/answer part of your vision-quest can see that you are not open to debate. Sorry buddy, the the Delphi-technique only worked during the Cold War...

[climb2core]

Has anyone had there rope "de-sheathed" by mank gear in the Red in the last 3 years? If so, I would really appreciate if you could send me a pm.

Thanks,

Ian

[pigsteak]

developers, always check any rop you leave hanging over the top of a cliff ev en for a day. it is that time of year where the small animals are out and will chew the sheath. I had one chewed last week...the sheath was gone.

[dustonian]

MMMmmmm..... nylon....

Got up to the tree rap anchor on Eye of the Storm a week or two ago, and the webbing was chewed to shreds, nice blue and orange confetti strands all over the place. In my experience, the rodents have much less of hankering for dyneema, Spectra, polyester, and other non-nylon materials.

[dustonian]

On the topic of fixed lines though, I try and strictly avoid jugging lines without a "sub-anchor" that I can see from the ground (bolt or good piece of gear near the top). One of the most dangerous and unnecessary things you can do IMO is jug an old fixed rope that you can't see from bottom to top... yikes.

[Dhaulagiri]

On the topic of fixed lines though, I try and strictly avoid jugging lines without a "sub-anchor" that I can see from the ground (bolt or good piece of gear near the top). One of the most dangerous and unnecessary things you can do IMO is jug an old fixed rope that you can't see from bottom to top... yikes.

So you're saying it might not have been a good idea for some folks to be using the rope hanging near Charlie as a rope swing a couple of years ago??

[clif]

chills remembering my first jug on the slabs approach to half dome. i think i asked the guy i was with about five times how he knew the cord was any good, and i generously let him go first. it's hard to jug 'delicately', ya know?

[dustonian]

Oh gawd, I would never trust the ropes on the death slabs with much more than a third of my weight tops... I always found a way to climb around the steeper sections without actually jugging the tat.