Michael_W wrote:Didn't know until this morning that EGBG had attracted some attention. I suppose it is part of my learning curve that I bolted it precisely as I did. I expect this will disappoint some, but the younger Wheatley had nothing to do with bolting that route. Yea, he keeps trying to take credit for all the cool stuff I put up. But, that's kids for you. Rag him all you want. You have my permission. 8)
Damn dad.. Maybe your worst attempt of defending your son. You and caribe are now on my black list.
Honestly Ian I don't think anyone really gives 2 shits about the whole thing, except maybe mighty Meg ... you just created a nice excuse for everyone to spray down a bit during a horrendously boring work week smack dab in the middle of the nicest weather window for climbing all year... woe is us.
Now, off to the Lode and then Choco for a spectacular new rap-bolted sport route just teeming with sketchy potential tricam placements! Later suckers!!
climb2core wrote:...We should not ignore those who question new climbing developments or who are concerned about ethical and stylistic matters; how we climb does matter. The point is that we need to maintain some humility about today’s issues ...
Worth reading, and somewhat supportive of Pigsteak.
nonsense, show me a Pigsteak post with even the slightest signs of humility-
Humility... He is the only that has it. Everyone else's viewpoint has assumed they have some superior ethical ground to stand on and that their position is somehow better.
Minimizing bolt use, particually where trad gear will work well, protects climbing for future generations. Look at the top of Fuzzy, pretty soon there won't be any locations left to place a bolt. Even stainless glue-ins will fatigue fail over time.
Michael_W wrote:Didn't know until this morning that EGBG had attracted some attention. I suppose it is part of my learning curve that I bolted it precisely as I did. I expect this will disappoint some, but the younger Wheatley had nothing to do with bolting that route. Yea, he keeps trying to take credit for all the cool stuff I put up. But, that's kids for you. Rag him all you want. You have my permission. 8)
Thanks Mike and Andrew. Looking forward to getting on it this weekend!