Demon Seed vs Soul Ram

[climb2core]

LOL, Dustin I knew you were gonna downgrade it.... "11d on granite" I was impressed that you went all the way to 12a . And yes, I was on it my first time with out chalk... making it more of an adventure!

To me, and to most people, it felt like 12c...

[dustonian]

You should also get on Triple Sec to round out the collection of classy just-past-vert lines... and Fresh Baked/Golden Brown at BS. I hear that Hood Luck kicks ass as well.

Got a new one going up in Coal Bank too... techy vert and crack hikes are about all I can climb really, and I'm getting too old (fat) to face my weaknesses anymore

[climb2core]

LOL... it is easy to face when all you got is weakness

[caribe]

Caribe . . . I took the comments at face value. I will find out the fun way...

For once I will be curious and interested in your opinion. Post when you have found out.

[climb2core]

Caribe . . . I took the comments at face value. I will find out the fun way...

For once I will be curious and interested in your opinion. Post when you have found out.

My delicate feelings are so hurt...

Time to start watching the Demon Seed Video!

[caribe]

My delicate feelings are so hurt...

Yes!

[JR]

JR, pretty sure consensus on Soul Ram is that it is 12c, and that Porter originally graded it 12c. That is why I was comparing the two.

That is true.

The two are comparable.

Regardless of the grade, my opinion stands. Demon Seed is harder.

[Andrew]

Lets see... One is a Porter classic, the other is an Andrew choss heap. Is this really that hard to figure out?

[clif]

super slab, orange juice, and stunning the hog..., wtf are you thinking? shouldn't you just be climbing that shit?

[One-Fall]

Regardless of the grade, my opinion stands. Demon Seed is harder.

99 times out of a 100, I agree with JR. This is the other time. While JR is a very well rounded climber, Id say crimping is his strong suit. Same thing goes with Dustin. Grain of salt with both of them when talking about vert crimping.

Ian, if you are 5'8" or over, Id bet you will think Demon Seed is easier.

And Andrew is full of it, he knows that his route is one of the best we have in the whole park.