That said, want to sell them?

yep! Wait until the end to see exactly what rips out of this crack.dustonian wrote:That's just my experience and in casual hearsay,
Exactly... you can even see the dreaded "crumble" effect in that video! The rock looks pretty non-sandy too by Indian Creek standards. I've had that happen first-hand several times while belaying, always with yellow alien or smaller... scary as hell but resulting fortunately in only minor injuries, sprained ankles etc. Moral of the story: place significantly more pieces in soft sandstone thin cracks than you would on bomber granite or quartzite!! Especially if using Aliens or TCUs.caribe wrote: Wait until the end to see exactly what rips out of this crack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ854rwQZUI