Via Glenn Reynolds - CHANGE: Oh my: Majorities of liberal Democrats now support drone strikes, keeping Gitmo open.
It’s as if all that international-law, humanitarian, have-you-no-decency crap was just . . . crap. And partisan crap at that.
No secret, but nice to make it clear. To all the people who were yammering about this in 2007-2008: Don’t waste my time in the future. Or yours.
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/08/o ... itmo-open/
Heh.
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Preventing terrorism is one thing... starting 2 occupations (based on a complete lie) in order to secure oil for another 20 years, is another.LK Day wrote:It’s as if all that international-law, humanitarian, have-you-no-decency crap was just . . . crap. And partisan crap at that.
Partisanship doesn't have a damn thing to do with it.
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Nice try at changing the subject.
Below is an excerpt from what Glenn Greenwald had to say on the matter just yesterday. At least there's one honest liberal.
"Repulsive liberal hypocrisy extends far beyond the issue of Guantanamo. A core plank in the Democratic critique of the Bush/Cheney civil liberties assault was the notion that the President could do whatever he wants, in secret and with no checks, to anyone he accuses without trial of being a Terrorist – even including eavesdropping on their communications or detaining them without due process. But President Obama has not only done the same thing, but has gone much farther than mere eavesdropping or detention: he has asserted the power even to kill citizens without due process. As Bush’s own CIA and NSA chief Michael Hayden said this week about the Awlaki assassination: “We needed a court order to eavesdrop on him but we didn’t need a court order to kill him. Isn’t that something?” That is indeed “something,” as is the fact that Bush’s mere due-process-free eavesdropping on and detention of American citizens caused such liberal outrage, while Obama’s due-process-free execution of them has not.
Beyond that, Obama has used drones to kill Muslim children and innocent adults by the hundreds. He has refused to disclose his legal arguments for why he can do this or to justify the attacks in any way. He has even had rescuers and funeral mourners deliberately targeted. As Hayden said: ”Right now, there isn’t a government on the planet that agrees with our legal rationale for these operations, except for Afghanistan and maybe Israel.” But that is all perfectly fine with most American liberals now that their Party’s Leader is doing it:"
Here's the link: http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/
Below is an excerpt from what Glenn Greenwald had to say on the matter just yesterday. At least there's one honest liberal.
"Repulsive liberal hypocrisy extends far beyond the issue of Guantanamo. A core plank in the Democratic critique of the Bush/Cheney civil liberties assault was the notion that the President could do whatever he wants, in secret and with no checks, to anyone he accuses without trial of being a Terrorist – even including eavesdropping on their communications or detaining them without due process. But President Obama has not only done the same thing, but has gone much farther than mere eavesdropping or detention: he has asserted the power even to kill citizens without due process. As Bush’s own CIA and NSA chief Michael Hayden said this week about the Awlaki assassination: “We needed a court order to eavesdrop on him but we didn’t need a court order to kill him. Isn’t that something?” That is indeed “something,” as is the fact that Bush’s mere due-process-free eavesdropping on and detention of American citizens caused such liberal outrage, while Obama’s due-process-free execution of them has not.
Beyond that, Obama has used drones to kill Muslim children and innocent adults by the hundreds. He has refused to disclose his legal arguments for why he can do this or to justify the attacks in any way. He has even had rescuers and funeral mourners deliberately targeted. As Hayden said: ”Right now, there isn’t a government on the planet that agrees with our legal rationale for these operations, except for Afghanistan and maybe Israel.” But that is all perfectly fine with most American liberals now that their Party’s Leader is doing it:"
Here's the link: http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/
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Ah, again we try to change the subject. But you think that the place of Obama's birth excuses him from liberal criticism? Is that why progressives don't give a fuck about what he's doing in the "war on terror". They're all birthers now?
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Obama has failed to do anything i had hoped for. a total dive on the socialist peacenik front.
haunted.