Oh okay, I get it. So it's about the dog getting their feelings hurt.Syphur wrote:Well, you already got called out for it but I'll respond anyhow. Pets going for grooming/vet visits are caged so they can't escape or fight with other animals. Pets left in/at a vehicle are there because the owner didn't want to leave it home or take it with them. Though I respect the desire for debate you're comparing apples to oranges.SCIN wrote:I wonder how many people who voted no have ever crated their dog or took their dog to Petsmart for a grooming (caged) or to the vet (caged) for the day.
Leave your dogs in car while climbing at Muir, cool right?
Re: Leave your dogs in car while climbing at Muir, cool rig
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Re: Leave your dogs in car while climbing at Muir, cool rig
The issue has nothing to do with temperature, mellowness, or a dog's rights.milspecmark wrote:I have never left my dog in the car at Muir but, I don't really see a problem with it if the temperature is cool and the dog is mellow.
If a landowner asks you not to bring your dog, then don't bring the dog.
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Re: Leave your dogs in car while climbing at Muir, cool rig
+1toad857 wrote:The issue has nothing to do with temperature, mellowness, or a dog's rights.milspecmark wrote:I have never left my dog in the car at Muir but, I don't really see a problem with it if the temperature is cool and the dog is mellow.
If a landowner asks you not to bring your dog, then don't bring the dog.
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Re: Leave your dogs in car while climbing at Muir, cool rig
I find it interesting the rationalizations that people use for when it's "OK" to lock up an animal. A crate, a small kitchen, a truck; work, doctor, climb... It's all the same (to a dog).
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Re: Leave your dogs in car while climbing at Muir, cool rig
I find it interesting the rationalizations that people use for treating animals like humans. It is so cute!!!
That said. Don't lock up your dog at Muir. It is against the rules. Duh!!! Clearly rule number #23b addresses this!!! The Webers are thorough (awesome too).
Rest assured the folks that are defining what is humane (kafisher2) will be there to help patronize!!!
That said. Don't lock up your dog at Muir. It is against the rules. Duh!!! Clearly rule number #23b addresses this!!! The Webers are thorough (awesome too).
Rest assured the folks that are defining what is humane (kafisher2) will be there to help patronize!!!
Re: Leave your dogs in car while climbing at Muir, cool rig
Lock your dog up in the back of your truck while you go climbing, it's still happy to see you when you return. Lock your wife up . . . well, that's a different story!
Re: Leave your dogs in car while climbing at Muir, cool rig
[/quote]milspecmark wrote: The issue has nothing to do with temperature, mellowness, or a dog's rights.
If a landowner asks you not to bring your dog, then don't bring the dog.
Well said!
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Re: Leave your dogs in car while climbing at Muir, cool rig
toad857 wrote:The issue has nothing to do with temperature, mellowness, or a dog's rights.milspecmark wrote:I have never left my dog in the car at Muir but, I don't really see a problem with it if the temperature is cool and the dog is mellow.
If a landowner asks you not to bring your dog, then don't bring the dog.
Kind of a moot point isn't it. Of course breaking the rules at Muir Valley is not cool. I kind of thought the issue was about leaving a dog in a car. I don't bring my dog to Muir because of the rules. All I am saying is that if I were allowed, and the temp was right and the dog is mellow, I think it would be ok.
Re: Leave your dogs in car while climbing at Muir, cool rig
No--the moot point is that if someone is going to a place where dogs are permitted, then they wouldn't be locking them up in the car in the first place.milspecmark wrote:toad857 wrote:The issue has nothing to do with temperature, mellowness, or a dog's rights.milspecmark wrote:I have never left my dog in the car at Muir but, I don't really see a problem with it if the temperature is cool and the dog is mellow.
If a landowner asks you not to bring your dog, then don't bring the dog.
Kind of a moot point isn't it. Of course breaking the rules at Muir Valley is not cool. I kind of thought the issue was about leaving a dog in a car. I don't bring my dog to Muir because of the rules. All I am saying is that if I were allowed, and the temp was right and the dog is mellow, I think it would be ok.
(or if they do, then they are a shitty dog owner)
Re: Leave your dogs in car while climbing at Muir, cool rig
Kyle, you are correct. I would not leave my dog in the car while I got to go play, that's why I don't (often) climb at muir any more. Its just that simple. I do leave her in the car while I go out to eat, and take road trips, and sleep while camping. Other than sleeping she is not in there for too long. I don't agree with the method, It's pretty damn selfish and inconsiderate to a most loyal friend. Rules and personal ethics aside, I don't consider it animal abuse to leave a dog in the car for long periods of time assuming they have water and the temps are ok.
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