LK Day should weigh in

[climb2core]

And it begins anew... Prequel to "does God exist?". Please spring, come soon.

[dustonian]

um, it was 65 degrees in the Red today. not crowded enough for ya to take the day off?

[climb2core]

I wish. But even if I could bail on work and drive the 4 hours ea way, I have these damn things called kids that get in the way of my climbing fun. You just wait Dustin... You won't be a student forever.

[dustonian]

You're right, I'll be a bum again in only 3-1/2 short years.

[crazyhair]

You guys are deluding yourselves if you think the difference between a republican and a democrat actually matters anymore. Clinton, Bush, Obama, McCain, they're all in the pockets of big businesses. Want change? Demand political transparency. If I vote for someone- I want to know who the puppet-master behind them is.

[climb2core]

Ha ha, such a kidder. your days of dirt bagging are done.

[LK Day]

Nik - As for your laundry list of "War on Terror" horrors, there has been precious little real difference between Bush and Obama on those issues. But if it is the Commerce Clause that gives the government the power to make one buy health insurance, then there's pretty much nothing that it doesn't give them the power to force you to do.

[nik]

Nik - As for your laundry list of "War on Terror" horrors, there has been precious little real difference between Bush and Obama on those issues. But if it is the Commerce Clause that gives the government the power to make one buy health insurance, then there's pretty much nothing that it doesn't give them the power to force you to do.

agreed, there has been little difference and i am upset by a lot that obama has done (including maintaining a lot of bush-era policies). my only point was that i wouldn't say obama's administration is easily the most corrupt of them all. as crazyhair (and others) has argued, they're all pretty bad -- democrat, republican, independent, or libertarian. only solution i see is to "get the money out of politics" however in the hell that's supposed to happen. then, perhaps, we would be able to see if guiding ideologies really make a difference in terms of governing morality. until then, we'll never know, and policy will go to the highest bidder.

[Shamis]

Oh, it's not the inside deals that makes this the administration the most corrupt. It's their out and out assault on liberty that earns them that distinction.

What liberties has this administration attacked?

There is that sopa internet thing which is REALLY BAD...and whatever that new bill is that supposedly allows detaining us citizens without a ttrial....but you could argue thar the patriot act already did that. However, i don't really see obama supporting either of thise bills and I'll put full blame on congress for those...

I still am curious wht liberties obamahas infringed upon that bush didn't already do worse?

[Shamis]

I'm praying that i get a chance to vote for ron paul in the general election. Luckily I'm an atheist so i won't be too upset when my prayers are inevitably Ignored.